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2023.06.07 00:08 StormTheTrooper Some ramble on ideas for #10
Between this Cato news and a quite nice provocation (not in the bad way) I found in the NBA Draft sub (no reason to tag the guy here, since he's not a Mavs fan and I do not know him at all to start with), I started to think (or rather cope) with the loss of the draft pick and trading for a veteran. If this isn't a smokescreen, I believe we will be diving head first into the "build to win now" scenario. Considering this, I decided to play a little bit in Spotrac and see how far could we go in the roster build.
Disclosure, I'm following exclusively the Spotrac simulator, so any mistake cap-wise, send the e-mail to them, eh?
Disclosure #2: we will be hard capped if we use the BAE, so, yeah, no.
Scenario 1
a) DAL sends 10, 2027 FRP, Bertans to the Magic for WCJ
Honestly, WCJ is a secret in the open. He fits well a defense that switches a lot, considering how his feet is light, while he can anchor a defense to an extent. He can shoot from the perimeter, he is a legit amazing screener and a lob threat. He is a do-it-all C, on an amazing deal, that is just 24. Some might wrinkle the nose for trading 2 FRPs for him, but I think it is even kinda cheap. I'm not sure the Magic would do it, but who knows, maybe they want to package 6, 10 and 11. Three lottery picks has a lot of power, enough to either trade up hard if they want Scoot or even trade for an actual star. The deal, honestly, makes sense for both parties if we are to part ways with the pick.
A fun stat. Here's the shooting attempts that Embiid had in the last 3 games he faced WCJ: 9-18, 12-23, 11-33. If you want to say "Well, maybe the Magic has a good defense against Embiid". First, it's Embiid in Orlando, it's pretty much Luka against the Celtics. Second, WCJ did not play one game in that stretch: 18-23 and a 50pt party in 27 minutes.
b) We re-sign Kyrie for the max deal
Really, is there anything to say? If we are going this route, we are going with Kyrie.
c) Renounce the bird rights of Christian Wood
Bye bye, Wood, hope you learn how to play defense and set a screen somewhere else.
d) Sign Jalen McDaniels for the MLE
Now this starts to get interesting. Apparently, if we make those moves, at least according to Spotrac (again, I'm not a cookie smart enough to know the CBA that well to calculate the exceptions), we will have access to the full MLE. This open up the portfolio of players that we can acquire and I believe many will wander towards Dillon Brooks. However, I believe we may have a shot at signing McDaniels for the full MLE. Morey is emotional in his deals and McDaniels was an afterthought in their playoff run. Sure, Nurse is in the house, there may be a renewed interest into him, but there is a shot for him to come to Dallas for the full MLE, specially if we offer him a guaranteed starting role, which he would have. Also, if Philly re-signs Harden, they will probably be touching the 2nd apron, with Maxey's deal looming. Things could get rough.
e) Sign Pinson, Ntilikina and Powell to veteran minimum deals
Yes. They're more than decent depth, bring some locker room chemistry and have spot minutes usage in the court, specially Ntilikina. The whole "People forget about Frank" meme is a think, but Ntilikina playing spot minutes as a defensive specialist is a decent role and he could get more than the veteran minimum deal here.
Tax situation: we would be in the tax here (duh), but 6.3M over the tax. This would trigger the 1st apron, but we would be 10M +- clear of the 2nd apron, where things start to get really ugly.
Possible rotation: Luka/Kyrie/Green/McDaniels/WCJ, with Hardy, Bullock, Maxi and McGee playing an eventual playoff rotation. We can get bigger by rolling with a McDaniels/Maxi/WCJ rotation and bringing Green off the bench. There's some nice flexibility to get bigger or smaller here and WCJ is extremely versatile, enough to fit multiple defensive looks in a similar game.
Scenario 2
a) DAL sends 10, 2027 FRP, Green, Hardy and Bertans to the Raptors for OG Anunoby and Achiuwa
This is Masai we're talking about. If he is to trade Anunoby and take in Bertans' deal, he will demand Hardy. I'm not making judgements here on the trade itself (everyone here knows I want to draft, even trade down in the draft itself), but if you folks wish OG Anunoby, this deal could entice Masai, specially for Green. Yes, I know what Cato said and I know Nico almost sank the Kyrie deal because the Nets wanted Green, but if we are to make a splash, this is the way. We're getting a DPOY-caliber wing and Achiuwa, that can play more than enough spot minutes here. Maybe we could keep Hardy if we took in Boucher instead? I don't know, but we would probably need to send Timmy as salary filler and Masai hates salary fillers that are not on an expiring deal so...a rough price, in general.
b) We re-sign Kyrie for the max deal
Same.
c) Renounce the bird rights of Christian Wood
Same.
d) Sign Brook Lopez for the MLE
We already went through this. The Mavs are very likely to roll with a switchable C instead of a classic one. However, if there is a C that is a perfect fit here, is Brook Lopez. Now, I believe he has a market for more than just the MLE. Since we are trying to take a, uh, positive approach here, let's presume he is lured by just the MLE and decides he had enough of Wisconsin and wants to roll in the Luka ride. I do not need to sell anyone on Lopez, I believe. For the MLE, it is a steal.
e) Sign Pinson, Ntilikina and Powell to veteran minimum deals
Same.
f) Sign Dragic for the veteran minimum
For once, we need another guard to come off the bench. Ljubljana Ultras, rejoice for the Dragon finally arrived in Dallas.
Tax situation: 11.8M deep in the tax, with a potential high OG deal in sight and the need to find a replacement for Timmy in 2 seasons...quite grim. If you guys want a win-or-bust scenario, here it is, because we are touching that 2nd apron soon.
Possible rotation: Luka/Kyrie/OG/Maxi/Brook, with Dragic, Timmy, Bullock and Achiuwa off the bench. A lot of firepower here, not gonna lie. We would need to see more Ntilikina than people are used to, considering the lack of backcourt defense with Green gone, but this would be peak firepower. Luka would actually feel the heat of the obligation to win instead of getting media support due to "lack of teammates". Do I think we have enough to win here? Honestly? No.
I tried to think about other scenarios, but it is way too difficult to evaluate 10 in a vacuum. Feels like too much to trade for Capela, too little to trade for Myles Turner. Guys like Claxton are way overrated and THJ and Bertans, although together combine for a max-level contract, does not warrant the player worthy of one (unless we are receiving Ben Simmons and 21 and 22 without giving up 10, but that's a different deal). Do not think Ayton will be for sale under Vogel, I believe Vogel will make Ayton a focal point of their offense. Too much for Bojan, too little for Keldon Johnson and a laughable joke for Jaylen Brown.
I'm curious to see folks rationale here, because as one (tired) person, I'm sure I missed more than a few scenarios here.
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Disclosure, I'm following exclusively the Spotrac simulator, so any mistake cap-wise, send the e-mail to them, eh?
Disclosure #2: we will be hard capped if we use the BAE, so, yeah, no.
Scenario 1
a) DAL sends 10, 2027 FRP, Bertans to the Magic for WCJ
Honestly, WCJ is a secret in the open. He fits well a defense that switches a lot, considering how his feet is light, while he can anchor a defense to an extent. He can shoot from the perimeter, he is a legit amazing screener and a lob threat. He is a do-it-all C, on an amazing deal, that is just 24. Some might wrinkle the nose for trading 2 FRPs for him, but I think it is even kinda cheap. I'm not sure the Magic would do it, but who knows, maybe they want to package 6, 10 and 11. Three lottery picks has a lot of power, enough to either trade up hard if they want Scoot or even trade for an actual star. The deal, honestly, makes sense for both parties if we are to part ways with the pick.
A fun stat. Here's the shooting attempts that Embiid had in the last 3 games he faced WCJ: 9-18, 12-23, 11-33. If you want to say "Well, maybe the Magic has a good defense against Embiid". First, it's Embiid in Orlando, it's pretty much Luka against the Celtics. Second, WCJ did not play one game in that stretch: 18-23 and a 50pt party in 27 minutes.
b) We re-sign Kyrie for the max deal
Really, is there anything to say? If we are going this route, we are going with Kyrie.
c) Renounce the bird rights of Christian Wood
Bye bye, Wood, hope you learn how to play defense and set a screen somewhere else.
d) Sign Jalen McDaniels for the MLE
Now this starts to get interesting. Apparently, if we make those moves, at least according to Spotrac (again, I'm not a cookie smart enough to know the CBA that well to calculate the exceptions), we will have access to the full MLE. This open up the portfolio of players that we can acquire and I believe many will wander towards Dillon Brooks. However, I believe we may have a shot at signing McDaniels for the full MLE. Morey is emotional in his deals and McDaniels was an afterthought in their playoff run. Sure, Nurse is in the house, there may be a renewed interest into him, but there is a shot for him to come to Dallas for the full MLE, specially if we offer him a guaranteed starting role, which he would have. Also, if Philly re-signs Harden, they will probably be touching the 2nd apron, with Maxey's deal looming. Things could get rough.
e) Sign Pinson, Ntilikina and Powell to veteran minimum deals
Yes. They're more than decent depth, bring some locker room chemistry and have spot minutes usage in the court, specially Ntilikina. The whole "People forget about Frank" meme is a think, but Ntilikina playing spot minutes as a defensive specialist is a decent role and he could get more than the veteran minimum deal here.
Tax situation: we would be in the tax here (duh), but 6.3M over the tax. This would trigger the 1st apron, but we would be 10M +- clear of the 2nd apron, where things start to get really ugly.
Possible rotation: Luka/Kyrie/Green/McDaniels/WCJ, with Hardy, Bullock, Maxi and McGee playing an eventual playoff rotation. We can get bigger by rolling with a McDaniels/Maxi/WCJ rotation and bringing Green off the bench. There's some nice flexibility to get bigger or smaller here and WCJ is extremely versatile, enough to fit multiple defensive looks in a similar game.
Scenario 2
a) DAL sends 10, 2027 FRP, Green, Hardy and Bertans to the Raptors for OG Anunoby and Achiuwa
This is Masai we're talking about. If he is to trade Anunoby and take in Bertans' deal, he will demand Hardy. I'm not making judgements here on the trade itself (everyone here knows I want to draft, even trade down in the draft itself), but if you folks wish OG Anunoby, this deal could entice Masai, specially for Green. Yes, I know what Cato said and I know Nico almost sank the Kyrie deal because the Nets wanted Green, but if we are to make a splash, this is the way. We're getting a DPOY-caliber wing and Achiuwa, that can play more than enough spot minutes here. Maybe we could keep Hardy if we took in Boucher instead? I don't know, but we would probably need to send Timmy as salary filler and Masai hates salary fillers that are not on an expiring deal so...a rough price, in general.
b) We re-sign Kyrie for the max deal
Same.
c) Renounce the bird rights of Christian Wood
Same.
d) Sign Brook Lopez for the MLE
We already went through this. The Mavs are very likely to roll with a switchable C instead of a classic one. However, if there is a C that is a perfect fit here, is Brook Lopez. Now, I believe he has a market for more than just the MLE. Since we are trying to take a, uh, positive approach here, let's presume he is lured by just the MLE and decides he had enough of Wisconsin and wants to roll in the Luka ride. I do not need to sell anyone on Lopez, I believe. For the MLE, it is a steal.
e) Sign Pinson, Ntilikina and Powell to veteran minimum deals
Same.
f) Sign Dragic for the veteran minimum
For once, we need another guard to come off the bench. Ljubljana Ultras, rejoice for the Dragon finally arrived in Dallas.
Tax situation: 11.8M deep in the tax, with a potential high OG deal in sight and the need to find a replacement for Timmy in 2 seasons...quite grim. If you guys want a win-or-bust scenario, here it is, because we are touching that 2nd apron soon.
Possible rotation: Luka/Kyrie/OG/Maxi/Brook, with Dragic, Timmy, Bullock and Achiuwa off the bench. A lot of firepower here, not gonna lie. We would need to see more Ntilikina than people are used to, considering the lack of backcourt defense with Green gone, but this would be peak firepower. Luka would actually feel the heat of the obligation to win instead of getting media support due to "lack of teammates". Do I think we have enough to win here? Honestly? No.
I tried to think about other scenarios, but it is way too difficult to evaluate 10 in a vacuum. Feels like too much to trade for Capela, too little to trade for Myles Turner. Guys like Claxton are way overrated and THJ and Bertans, although together combine for a max-level contract, does not warrant the player worthy of one (unless we are receiving Ben Simmons and 21 and 22 without giving up 10, but that's a different deal). Do not think Ayton will be for sale under Vogel, I believe Vogel will make Ayton a focal point of their offense. Too much for Bojan, too little for Keldon Johnson and a laughable joke for Jaylen Brown.
I'm curious to see folks rationale here, because as one (tired) person, I'm sure I missed more than a few scenarios here.
2023.06.06 19:40 spammusubi0808 [Spotrac] Ed Oliver's 4 year, $68M #Bills extension includes: ▪️ $24.5M guaranteed at sign ▪️ Another $7M Feb '24 ▪️ Another $8.25M March '24 ▪️ $16.7M in 2023 ▪️ 3 yrs, $47.1M practical Cap Hits 23: $4.9M 24: $9.25M 25: $20.75M 26: $22.3M 27: $21.4M Breakdown: spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bi…
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2023.06.05 23:09 howser343 Keith Smith predicts Patrick Williams will sign a 5-year/$100M extension
Source: https://www.spotrac.com/news/2020-draft-class-rookie-scale-extension-updates-and-predictions-1905/
Full Quote: Williams has become one of the most underrated players from this class. He’s a good shooter, has shown improvement every season and he’s been durable in two of his three seasons. The Bulls roster and cap sheet are in a bit of a weird place, but they can’t let Williams leave because of that. The new CBA allowing for non-max rookie scale extensions to cover five years could come into play here.
Prediction: Five years, $100 million, no options
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Full Quote: Williams has become one of the most underrated players from this class. He’s a good shooter, has shown improvement every season and he’s been durable in two of his three seasons. The Bulls roster and cap sheet are in a bit of a weird place, but they can’t let Williams leave because of that. The new CBA allowing for non-max rookie scale extensions to cover five years could come into play here.
Prediction: Five years, $100 million, no options
2023.06.05 21:12 Dr_Edge_ATX Bane Contract Extension Prediction
Desmond Bane - Prediction: Five years, $207,350,000 (25% of the cap), no options
Pretty wild that the #1 pick and the #30 pick will likely get the same type of contract. Grand slam of a pick you could say.
2020 Draft Class Contract Predictions
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Pretty wild that the #1 pick and the #30 pick will likely get the same type of contract. Grand slam of a pick you could say.
2020 Draft Class Contract Predictions
2023.06.05 20:55 gutterferret Getting under the 2023 Salary Cap (Or, can somebody please explain what we need to pay attention to here?)
Q: what is our Salary cap situation going into summer??
As of today, according to Spotrac the Bucs are $21M over the cap going into the summer. It does not list any salary for our 2023 draft picks, which implies we've got some work to do. On the other hand...
Over The Cap shows the Bucs have $400k of salary cap space and has all draft picks listed at entry level $750k deals.
If OTC is accurate then training camp cuts will basically take care of everything and we can disregard the rest of this post.
The Bucs have already created $44M in space this year by restructuring Vita, Carlton Davis, Jensen and Godwin.
(assuming Spotract is accurate) With $21M left to clear, and an additional ~$7M - $10M in rookie contracts to account for, how do we create the ~$30M in space it seems like we need?
The obvious moves:
Are there other moves - obvious or otherwise - that you think the Bucs should be looking at?
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As of today, according to Spotrac the Bucs are $21M over the cap going into the summer. It does not list any salary for our 2023 draft picks, which implies we've got some work to do. On the other hand...
Over The Cap shows the Bucs have $400k of salary cap space and has all draft picks listed at entry level $750k deals.
If OTC is accurate then training camp cuts will basically take care of everything and we can disregard the rest of this post.
If Spotrac is more accurate than OTC we have some work to do.
2023 is a necessary growing pain year, getting through $76M in dead cap money from| Player | 2023 Dead Cap |
|---|---|
| Tom Brady | $35M |
| Donovan Smith | $8M |
| Lavonte | $6.9M |
| Lenny | $5M |
| Akiem Hicks | $4.9M |
| Shaq Mason | $4.3M |
| Julio | $3.5M |
| Brate | $3M |
| Gholston | $2.4M |
| Succop | $750k |
| 18 other guys | <$350k each |
| TOTAL | $75.96M |
(assuming Spotract is accurate) With $21M left to clear, and an additional ~$7M - $10M in rookie contracts to account for, how do we create the ~$30M in space it seems like we need?
The obvious moves:
- Restructure Shaq Barret. Saves $7M in cap space, kicks more into 2024 dead cap, but without the Brady hit next year we can better afford it
- Trade Devin White. Saves $11M in cap space. After the news stories floating pre-draft, the instagram drama, and the $11M hit this year in the final year of his contract, this seems like a likely move. Sure the guy is a defensive captain, and he's had flashes of greatness, but he's been incredibly inconsistent in coverage, and I feel like some combination of Diaby, Dennis, and Ramirez will fill that gap in our scheme.
- Trade candidates: Chicago (lots of cap space, need for LB on defense); Philly; Detroit. Return: considering our hands are tied (MAYBE?) and cutting him would save us nothing, a 5th or 6th round draft pick feels realistic. 4th feels like it would be a stretch but could happen if the market is hot. Considering nothing was accomplished pre-draft, doesn't seem likely.
Are there other moves - obvious or otherwise - that you think the Bucs should be looking at?
2023.06.05 08:21 -GenghisJuan- Would this sub lose their minds with this deal? I'm kind of into
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2023.06.04 23:00 NokCha_ [Official] r/warriors Dubs Draft Primer
warriors 2023 Dubs Draft Primer
This will be the primer for warriors on everything draft related. Once the draft is done, another version focusing more on the offseason will come out. Until then, here is the aggregated version of a mostly draft-focused primer (with a few other stuff added).2023 NBA Draft Date: Thursday June 22, 2023
Confirmed Draft Workouts (Last Updated: 6/5)
Reminder: These workouts aren't just for the 19th pick. It's for the possible undrafted players to recruit for the Summer League, Training Camp, Two-way spots, and/or Santa Cruz Warriors (Warriors' G-league). In case you forget and came to complain about working out guards or the fact they are working out prospects at all.| Prospect | Age | Height - Position | School/Team/Org | Date of Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Leaky Black | 23 | 6'9 - Forward | UNC | 5/3 - Jeremiah Holloway |
| Tristen Newton | 22 | 6'5 - Guard | UConn | 5/4 - Colin Deaver |
| Coleman Hawkins* | 21 | 6'10 - Big,F/C | Illinois | 5/26 - Anthony Slater |
| Trayce Jackson-Davis | 23 | 6'9 - Big,C | Indiana | 5/26 - Anthony Slater |
| Craig Porter Jr | 23 | 6'0 - Guard | Wichita State | 5/26 - Anthony Slater |
| Julian Strawther | 21 | 6'7 - Wing | Gonzaga | 5/26 - Anthony Slater |
| Kendric Davis | 24 | 6'0 - Guard | Memphis | 5/26 - Anthony Slater |
| Caleb Daniels | 24 | 6'4 - Guard | Villanova | 5/26 - Anthony Slater |
| Khalil Shabazz | 24 | 6'0 - Guard | University of San Francisco | 5/30 - Jason Dumas |
| Brandin Podziemski | 20 | Guard/Wing | Santa Clara | 5/30 - CJ Holmes |
| Colby Jones | 21 | 6'6 - Wing | Xavier | 5/30 - CJ Holmes |
| Terquavion Smith | 20 | 6'4 - Guard | NC State | 5/30 - CJ Holmes |
| Jake Stephens | 23 | 6'11 - Big | Chattanooga | 5/30 - CJ Holmes |
| Patrick Gardner | 23 | 6'11 - Big | Marist | 5/30 - CJ Holmes |
| Omari Moore | 22 | 6'5 - Wing | SJSU | 5/30 - CJ Holmes |
| Jamie Jaquez Jr | 22 | 6'7 - Guard | UCLA | 5/31 - Anthony Slater |
| Dereck Lively II** | 19 | 7'1 - Big | Duke | 6/2 - Anthony Slater |
| Jalen Wilson | 22 | 6'8 - Wing | Kansas | 6/2 - Anthony Slater |
| Colin Castleton | 23 | 6'11 - Big | Florida | 6/2 - Anthony Slater |
| Keyontae Johnson | 23 | 6'6 - Wing | Kansas State | 6/2 - Anthony Slater |
| Arthur Kaluma | 21 | 6'7 - Wing | Creighton | 6/2 - Anthony Slater |
| Gabe Kalscheur | 23 | 6'4 - Guard | TCU | 6/2 - Darren Wolfson |
| Ben Sheppard | 21 | 6'6 - Wing | Belmont | 6/3 - Jonathan Wasserman |
| Mojave King | 20 | 6'5 - Guard | G League Ignite | 6/5 - Dalton Johnson |
| Kamaka Hepa | 23 | 6'10 - Forward | Hawaii | 6/5 - Dalton Johnson |
| Damion Baugh | 22 | 6'4 - Guard | TCU | 6/5 - Jason Dumas |
| Javan Johnson | 24 | 6'6 - Wing | DePaul | 6/5 - Jason Dumas |
| Adam Kunkel | 23 | 6'4 - Guard | Xavier | 6/5 - Jason Dumas |
| Jaylen Martin | 19 | 6'6 - Guard | Overtime Elite | 6/5 - Jason Dumas |
| Justice Sueing | 24 | 6'6 - Wing | Ohio State | 6/5 - Jason Dumas |
**Workout cancelled
Mock Drafts for 19th (Last Updated: 6/3)
| Publication/Individual Source | Date of Mock Draft | Age | Height - Position | School/Team/Org | Brief Summary of Reason | Add'l Notes | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Athletic (Sam Vecenie) [PAYWALL] | 5/16 | Jalen Hood-Schifino | 20 | 6'6 - Wing | Indiana | 1. Warriors like well-rounded propsects 2. Team tends to draft younger recently 3. Ballhandling depth (esp if Poole is traded) | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. Due to paywall here is the 3 picks ahead + 3 picks behind 19th: 16)Kris Murray; 17)Jordan Hawkins; 18)Keyonte George; 20)Dariq Whitehead; 21)Brice Sensabaugh; 22)Jett Howard |
| ESPN/Draft Express (Jonathan Givony & Jeremy Woo) [PAYWALL] | 5/31 | Rayan Rupert | 19 | 6'7 - Wing | New Zeland Breakers | Rupert targeting playoff contenders > draft positions. Defensive-minded prospect w 7'2 wingspan+high intensity could help the Warriors who needed stops during the playoffs | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. Due to paywall here is the 3 picks ahead + 3 picks behind 19th: 16)Kobe Bufkin; 17)Cason Wallace; 18)Jett Howard; 20)Noah Clownley; 21)Bilal Coulibaly; 22)Leonard Miller |
| The Ringer (Kevin O'Connor) | 5/16 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | 2nd try at drafting a young big * Defense, Rebounding shown * Steph could unlock the offensive side | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Bleacher Report (Jonathan Wasserman) | 6/2 | Jett Howard | 19 | 6'8 - Wing | Michigan | Wing depth w shooting versatility + occasional self-creation. Questions about athleticism + defense | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Yahoo! Sports (Krysten Peek) | 5/16 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | Nothing Dubs specific - Shot blocker + Rebounder that can contribute right away | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| SB Nation (Ricky O'Donnell) | 5/16 | Leonard Miller | 19 | 6'10 - Forward | G League Ignite | Nothing Dubs specific - Upside. Good touch around basket. Defensive versatility (when locked in). | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Sports Illustrated (Matt Babcock) | 5/23 | Kris Murray | 22 | 6'8 - Wing | Iowa | Nothing Dubs specific - Scorer. Offensive board getter. Stretch 4. Solid and safe. | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| NBC Sports( Chas Hughes & Tyler Byrum) | 5/27 | Jalen Hood-Schifino | 20 | 6'6 - Wing | Indiana | Nothing Warriors specific - Big guard that penetrate paint and facilitate. | Post-combine/pro days + Pre-NCAA returners announced. |
| CBS Sports (Gary Parrish) | 5/22 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | Nothing Dubs specific - Rim protecting big | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| CBS Sports (Kyle Boone) | 5/26 | Trey Alexander* | 20 | 6'3 - Guard/Wing | Creighton | Nothing Dubs specific - Improved stock after combine. Evolved from athletic wing => playmaking guard. Two-way potential | *Has returned to college since |
| Fox Sports (John Fanta) | 5/18 | Kobe Bufkin | 19 | 6'4 - Guard | Michigan | Adds depth and athleticism. 2-way talent. Describes a better Jordan Poole. | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| USA Today (Lindsay Schnel, Cydney Henderson, Jeff Zillgitt) | 5/17 | Rayan Rupert | 19 | 6'7 - Wing | New Zeland Breakers | Nothing Dubs specific - Solid year in the pro league + 7'3 wingspan | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| USA Today FTW (Bryan Kalbrosky) | 5/16 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | Nothing Dubs specific | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Rookie Wire FTW (Cody Taylor) | 6/2 | Jett Howard | 19 | 6'8 - Wing | Michigan | Warriors could use more shooting + shown he can do more than just shoot | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Yardbarker (Pat Heery) | 5/31 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | 2nd try at drafting a young big. Trade asset. | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| The Sporting News (Kyle Irving) | 5/17 | Brice Sensabaugh | 19 | 6'6 - Wing | Ohio State | More perimeter shooting around Steph & Klay. Excel as a floor spacer. Might not be an immediate contributor, but can be a scoring depth for the 2nd unit | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Box and One (Adam Spinella/Coach Spins) | 6/2 | Dariq Whitehead | 18 | 6'6 - Wing | Duke | Warriors need more wings who can play offball. Notes Whitehead has high school pedigree which is something Warriors have valued (Nico Mannion, PBJ, etc) | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| No Ceilings | 5/17 | Gradey Dick | 19 | 6'8 - Wing | Kansas | Really good system fit + Adds another theoretically reliable shooter. Also only mock draft that has Gradey Dick falling down this far so doubt this one. | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| @MavsDraft (Richard Stayman) | 5/19 | Brice Sensabaugh | 19 | 6'6 - Wing | Ohio State | - | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| Tankathon | 6/1 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | - | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| NBAdraft.net | 5/31 | Dereck Lively II | 19 | 7'1- Big | Duke | - | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| NBA Draft Room | 6/3 | Brice Sensabaugh | 19 | 6'6 - Wing | Ohio State | Nothing Dubs specific - Powerful wing with an advanced offensive game | Post-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
| u/nghbrhd_slackr87's Optimistic Pick | 5/18 | Jaime Jaquez Jr | 22 | 6'7 - Guard | UCLA | Read it Here | Pre-combine/pro days + NCAA returners announced. |
Draft Picks (Source)
| Year | Round | Owns | Owed |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 1 | ✔ | - |
| 2023 | 2 | ❌ | CLE |
| 2024 | 1 | ❔ (If Top 4) | MEM (If 5-30) |
| 2024 | 2 | ❌ | HOU or CLE |
| 2025 | 1 | ❔ (If 2024 conveys OR keeps 2024 + Top 1) | MEM (If 2024 is Top 4 AND 2-30) |
| 2025 | 2 | ❌ | DET or WAS |
| 2025 | 2 | ❔ (From CHA If 56-60) | - |
| 2026 | 1 | ❔ (If 2025 conveys) | MEM (If 2024 ends up Top 4 AND 2025 ends up Top 1) |
| 2026 | 2 | ✔ | ATL |
| 2027 | 1 | ✔ | - |
| 2027 | 2 | ✔ | - |
| 2028 | 1 | ✔ | - |
| 2028 | 2 | ❌ | POR |
| 2029 | 1 | ✔ | - |
| 2029 | 2 | ✔ | - |
| 2030 | 1 | ✔ | - |
| 2030 | 2 | ✔ | - |
Stepien Rule
Teams are required to have at least 1 future FRP in every other draft.Warriors used their 2022 FRP on Patrick Baldwin Jr. Warriors own their 2023 FRP. Warriors will either keep their 2024 FRP or owe it to Memphis if it falls anywhere between 5-30. Due to the high likelihood of the pick conveying to Memphis in 2024, the Warriors will likely be required to use their 2023 FRP, obtain another 2023 FRP(s), or obtain a 2024 FRP(s).
Ways around the Stepien Rule:
- Trade prior to the draft, but pick for the other team having the trade only be officially completed after the draft
- Trade the rookie in a deal after the draft
News Reporting
Changing of the GM:
- Wojnarowski - 5/30: "Golden State's GM Bob Myers is stepping down as the franchise's president and general manager. With Myers' departure, Warriors owner Joe Lacob is expected to seek more prominent roles for his son, Kirk, an executive vice president of basketball operations, and VP of basketball operations Mike Dunleavy Jr."
- Slater - 5/31: "Warriors actually had a pre-draft workout while Myers and Lacob were doing their Tuesday afternoon press conference. It included Jaime Jaquez Jr., the UCLA wing who is an option for them with the 19th pick. Larry Harris, their long-time leader of college scouting, and Mike Dunleavy Jr., the presumed successor to Myers, ran it."
- Steinmetz - 6/2: "According to my sources, Mike Dunleavy Jr. is going to be the next General Manager of the Golden State Warriors. If the money is right, Dunleavy is going to be the guy."
Kenny Atkinson:
- Stein - 6/3: "Kenny Atkinson recently interviewed in Toronto for the Raptors' coaching vacancy, league sources say."
Draymond Green & Klay Thompson Extensions:
- Slater&Charania - 5/12: "Warriors intend to discuss a new multi-year contract with Green, either via an opt in and extend or an entirely new deal after an opt out, sources briefed on the matter tell The Athletic. Green has leverage: He is expected to have multiple playoff-contending teams in pursuit if he enters the open market"
- Wojnarowski - 4/16: "[Klay] Thompson, I'm told, has an expectation that he would be rewarded with a new, max-level contract extension this offseason"
- Slater&Charania - 5/12: "Thompson is extension eligible this summer. He’s making $43.2 million on the final year of his deal next season. If he’s to extend with the Warriors this summer, the expectation is he’d have to accept a paycut, as Andrew Wiggins did last summer"
Jonathan Kuminga's Future:
- Slater&Charania - 5/12: "The Warriors and Kuminga’s representatives are expected to discuss his future this offseason, league sources say. Golden State will need to decide whether Kuminga will receive a full-time role moving forward, and, if not, league sources say the No. 7 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft will want to be somewhere he can play more."
- Dumas - 5/13: "I’m told Jonathan Kuminga aims to split his off-season time in Miami, NYC, and LA. He wants to participate in alot of NBA open runs and showcase to people around the league what he can do on the court."
Players
Guaranteed to be on Next Year's Roster & Salary (Source):
| Player | 2023-24 Salary | Notes | Contract End Date(s) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Steph Curry | $51.9 mil | Vet Ext (Supermax)/Bird | 2026 (UFA) |
| Klay Thompson | $43.2 mil | FA (Max)/Bird | 2024 (UFA) |
| Jordan Poole | $27.4 mil | Rookie Ext/Bird | 2027 (UFA) |
| Andrew Wiggins | $24.3 mil | Vet Ext/Bird | 2026 (PO) / 2027 (UFA) |
| Gary Payton II | $8.7 mil | Acquired via Trade | 2025(PO) / 2025(UFA) |
| Kevon Looney | $7.5 mil | FA/Bird | 2024(Part-Gtd) / 2025(UFA) |
| Jonathan Kuminga | $6 mil | Drafted/Rookie Scale | 2024(TO) / 2025(RFA) |
| Moses Moody | $3.9 mil | Drafted/Rookie Scale | 2024(TO) / 2025(RFA) |
| Patrick Baldwin Jr | $2.3 mil | Drafted/Rookie Scale | 2025(TO) / 2026(TO) / 2027(RFA) |
| Ryan Rollins | $1.7 mil | Drafted/TPMLE | 2025(Part-Gtd) / 2025(RFA) |
| 19th Pick | $2.75 mil (est) | Drafted/Rookie Scale | 2027(RFA) |
Player Options:
- Draymond Green: $27.5 mil PO
- Donte DiVincenzo: $4.725 mil PO
Upcoming Free Agents:
- Andre Igoudala (UFA - Retirement Eligible)
- JaMychal Green (UFA)
- Anthony Lamb (RFA/Non-Bird - 2-Way Eligible)
- Ty Jerome (UFA - Not 2-Way Eligible)
- Lester Quinones (RFA - 2-Way)
CBA Stuff (Source)
Salary Cap (League's 2023-24 est.): $134 millionLuxury Tax (League's 2023-24 est.): $162 million
Second Apron (League's 2023-24 est.): $179.5+ million ($17.5+ mil above the luxry tax)
- Affected Teams (But harder to go under): Warriors, Clippers
- Affected Teams (But easier to go under): Bucks, Celtics, Mavericks, Lakers, Suns
- No more TPMLE
- 2022-23 TPMLE Usage: Signed Donte DiVicenzo + Signed Ryan Rollins to a 3rd partial-gtd year
- 2021-22 TPMLE Usage: Didn't use TPMLE
- 2020-21 TPMLE Usage: Signed Brad Wanamaker, Signed Juan Toscano-Anderson (2-way conversion)
- Limits on signing buyout candidates: No one making over Non-Taxpayer MLE of the season (2023-24: >$12.2 mil)
- Minimum/Vet minimum contracts
- Draft picks
- Trades
- Cannot use cash considerations in trades
- Cannot trade for more money than is sent out
- Pay tax at a higher rate: $2-for$1 additional tax
- Cannot aggregate contracts in trades
- Also no "aggregating down" ex 2 $20 mil contracts ($40 mil in total) cannot be traded for $30 mil contract + 1 minimum contract
- Cannot trade a FRP 7 years in advance
- Team's FRP will get pushed to the end of the 1st Round regardless of how they finish (if they stay above the tax apron in more than 1 of the next 4 years) aka Our pick is likely to end up 28-30 regardless of our regular season results
2023.06.04 06:07 TigerBasket [NathanSRuiz] The five players receiving the most money from the Orioles this year, per Spotrac: 1. Chris Davis: $14.83 million 2. Kyle Gibson: $10 million 3. Adam Frazier: $8 million 4. Anthony Santander: $7.4 million 5. Alex Cobb: $4.5 million
![[NathanSRuiz] The five players receiving the most money from the Orioles this year, per Spotrac: 1. Chris Davis: $14.83 million 2. Kyle Gibson: $10 million 3. Adam Frazier: $8 million 4. Anthony Santander: $7.4 million 5. Alex Cobb: $4.5 million](https://external-preview.redd.it/j4oFIUG_4cSDMoV8tL4A397CsWIRMnyaS1-d1a1zc6o.jpg?width=108&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1d3eb13dae252a0cf39a4af673944e1215136ac5 "[NathanSRuiz] The five players receiving the most money from the Orioles this year, per Spotrac: 1. Chris Davis: $14.83 million 2. Kyle Gibson: $10 million 3. Adam Frazier: $8 million 4. Anthony Santander: $7.4 million 5. Alex Cobb: $4.5 million") | submitted by TigerBasket to baseball [link] [comments] |
2023.06.04 04:07 BigBlueMagic BE HEARD!!!! Last chance to stop TERRIBLE STADIUM HANDOUT!!!!
(I also posted this in /vegaslocals. If reposting here isn't allowed, I apologize, and feel free to take down).
Hey Everybody!!!
I just want to keep you in the loop on what’s going on with Oakland A’s owner John Fisher’s request to have the Nevada Legislature give him up to $380 million in public funds for a new stadium. The Legislative session ENDS MONDAY, which means that they will ram this through very quickly in the next 48 hours or so or call a special session.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK OUT!!!! I have put together a fairly well-documented argument below demonstrating that this is a bad deal and Fisher is a terrible partner. Please share this post and information as widely as you can! Most importantly, contact members of the Legislature and BE HEARD!!! Be sure to tell them that you live in Nevada!!!
Contact your Assemblyperson and State Senator!!
Assembly contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Assembly/Current
State Senate Contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Senate/Current
If you would like, you could use or modify this sample letter which contains URL links supporting the claims.
TLDR Bullet Points For Big Argument Below:
1. They Don’t Want to Hear From You
Fisher and Kaval strategically waited until the 11th hour to release details about the handout. From USA Today:
They didn’t want you to know about the hearing and your opportunity to be heard. And if, by chance you did hear about it, they didn’t want you to be able to show up and be heard. They are not very subtle about their preference to not hear from you, the unwashed masses.
Guess who else wasn’t there? A’s owner John Fisher and President Dave Kaval. I am not making this up. They didn’t bother to show up to the Memorial Day hearing. They want us to give them hundreds of millions of dollars, but couldn’t be bothered to show up at the hearing and answer questions themselves? Where were they Monday night? What was so important they couldn’t be bothered to show up for a public hearing to answer questions in public? Fisher and his army of lobbyists have had weeks to meet privately with lawmakers behind closed doors. Are you telling me Fisher couldn’t give us regular folks two hours in public?
2. What Are Our Priorities?
There’s no way to sugarcoat it. Nevada, and in particular the Clark County School District, fail to provide adequate public education. Nevada ranks 49th out of 50 for educational attainment. Of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the United States, Las Vegas ranks second worst for schools. This is unacceptable, yet real education reform is never a priority for the same politicians who are willing to pull the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing shenanigans for Fisher.
If our elected officials can turn on a dime to hand out hundreds of millions of dollars to a billionaire for a sports stadium, why can’t they act with similar urgency for our disastrous public school system?
Our failed public schools, especially CCSD, are the most significant impediment to economic growth and diversification. The number one reason companies and individuals are reluctant to relocate to Las Vegas are our terrible public schools. If we want to create economic growth, we need to fund and fix our public schools, not build another billionaire a sports stadium.
3. The Numbers Don’t Make Sense. They’re Basically Fraud.
Whenever a billionaire asks the public to finance his stadium, the ask is always accompanied by a series of fantastical economic projections. If you watched the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing, you saw a powerpoint presentation made by Fisher’s hired lobbyists. The numbers presented by Fisher’s lobbyists aren’t simply slightly embellished, they are disconnected from reality.
First, there is the claim that Fisher’s publicly funded stadium will bring an additional 400,000 tourists. John Mehaffey breaks down this non-sensical claim in the Nevada Independent:
Stanford economics professor Roger Noll agrees with Mehaffey that the attendance numbers Fisher projects are not credible. From USA Today:
The total payroll for the 2023 A’s is just $59,630,474, just 37% of the MLB average payroll of $116,112,414 and just 17% of the highest-spending New York Mets ($345,474,042). To provide context, the highest paid players in the league, Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander, will each make $43,333,333. Verlander’s salary, by itself, is 72% of the entire A’s roster!
This meager spending is by choice, not necessity. It’s a strategy that works. From Sports Illustrated:
Why do this? Wouldn’t a competitive team generate more revenue? In Major League Baseball, there is a revenue sharing agreement among the franchises, intended to help smaller markets field competitive teams. Fisher uses revenue sharing, and dumping talent, to be one of the most profitable owners in baseball. From the New York Post:
5. History Repeating: Quakes Publicly Funded Stadium
There seems to be some hopeful thinking that if we give John Fisher a stadium handout, he will increase the A’s payroll to become more competitive. A’s President Dave Kaval stirred excitement when he insinuated that the franchise would bankroll a World Series championship team with a new stadium in Las Vegas. “But with more revenues, we want to turn a playoff team into a World Series team. That’s why we’re fighting so hard for a new stadium, whether it’s in Las Vegas or Oakland,” Kaval told the Review-Journal.
Many people, including our elected officials, want to believe this, in good faith. It would be awesome to have a Las Vegas MLB franchise win a World Series!
This isn’t Fisher’s first rodeo with a publicly funded stadium. Fisher is also the owner of the San Jose Quakes of Major League Soccer. From an Associated Press article in the May 25, 2006 Salinas Californian on public financing for a new Quakes stadium: “The Quakes won MLS championships in 2001 and 2003 led by former star forward Landon Donovan but attendance slid to an average of just 13,037 fans last season.” Sound familiar?
So what happened? Did Fisher increase player payroll once he obtained his publicly financed soccer stadium?
From the San Jose Mercury News:
The Raiders and A’s shared the Oakland Coliseum for decades. Aces and Raiders owner Mark Davis is very familiar with what it means to “partner” with John Fisher. Davis did not hold back when he spoke with the Review-Journal:
Sources:
“A’s Stadium Math Doesn’t Add Up.” The Nevada Independent, May 30, 2023. https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/as-stadium-math-doesnt-add-up.
Graney, Ed. “Graney: A’s Penny-Pinching a Reason for Las Vegas to Reassess.” Journal, March 18, 2022. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/ed-graney/graney-as-penny-pinching-a-reason-for-las-vegas-to-reassess-2547852/.
Gutierrez, Ana. “Nevada Ranks as the Second Least Educated State in America.” KLAS, February 17, 2022. https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/nevada-ranks-as-the-second-least-educated-state-in-america/.
Jenkins, Bruce. “MLB Has Punished Other Owners. Why Is A’s John Fisher Getting a Pass?” San Francisco Chronicle, June 3, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/jenkins/article/john-fisher-mlb-oakland-18130516.php.
Katsilometes, John. “Raiders Owner Rips Oakland Athletics’ Likely Move to Las Vegas.” Journal, April 27, 2023. https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/raiders-owner-rips-oakland-athletics-likely-move-to-las-vegas-2765229/?xxyy.
Lacques, Gabe. “Why A’s Las Vegas Stadium Gambit May Be a Losing Bet: ‘It’s Just Nonsense.’” USA Today, June 1, 2023. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/athletics/2023/06/01/oakland-as-move-las-vegas-stadium-gambit-losing-bet/70277528007/.
Lozito, Nick. “‘this Is Not Our Fault:’ Oakland A’s Fans Are Defending Their Image.” The Oaklandside, May 5, 2023. https://oaklandside.org/2023/05/01/oakland-athletics-leaving-las-vegas-john-fisher-dave-kaval-fans/.
“MLB 2023 Payroll Tracker.” Spotrac.com. Accessed June 3, 2023. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/.
Oakland Athletics made over $60 million in 2023 - Sports Illustrated ... Accessed June 4, 2023. https://www.si.com/mlb/athletics/news/oakland-athletics-made-over-60-million-in-2023.
Shea, John. “Don’t Believe John Fisher’s Propaganda: A’s Fans Are the Best in Baseball.” San Francisco Chronicle, June 1, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/athletics/article/oakland-a-s-fans-aren-t-reason-team-las-vegas-18126429.php.
Simon, Alex. “Would New Oakland A’s Ballpark Lead to More Spending? John Fisher’s Other Team Shows That May Not Be the Case.” The Mercury News, May 17, 2023. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/05/16/would-new-oakland-as-ballpark-lead-to-more-spending-john-fishers-other-team-shows-that-may-not-be-the-case/.
Wootton-Greener, Julie. “Las Vegas Area Schools Ranked Second-Worst in Nation for Quality.” Journal, December 9, 2021. https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/education/las-vegas-area-schools-ranked-second-worst-in-nation-for-quality-2493177/.
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Hey Everybody!!!
I just want to keep you in the loop on what’s going on with Oakland A’s owner John Fisher’s request to have the Nevada Legislature give him up to $380 million in public funds for a new stadium. The Legislative session ENDS MONDAY, which means that they will ram this through very quickly in the next 48 hours or so or call a special session.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK OUT!!!! I have put together a fairly well-documented argument below demonstrating that this is a bad deal and Fisher is a terrible partner. Please share this post and information as widely as you can! Most importantly, contact members of the Legislature and BE HEARD!!! Be sure to tell them that you live in Nevada!!!
Contact your Assemblyperson and State Senator!!
Assembly contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Assembly/Current
State Senate Contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Senate/Current
If you would like, you could use or modify this sample letter which contains URL links supporting the claims.
Dear Senator or Assemblyperson [Last Name], I am writing to express my strong opposition to the proposed public funding for John Fisher's baseball stadium in Nevada. I believe this project should be stopped for several reasons: Lack of transparency: Fisher and his team deliberately released funding details at the last minute and scheduled the only public hearing on Memorial Day evening, during a Golden Knights playoff game, limiting public awareness and participation. This is a shameful subversion of democracy and I hope you had no part in it. Neglected education system: Nevada ranks 49th out of 50 in educational attainment. Our focus should be on improving public schools, not funding a billionaire's stadium. Unrealistic economic projections: Expert analysis discredits the claim that the stadium will attract an additional 400,000 tourists, which, even if true, would only be a 1% increase on an annual basis. A Stanford economics professor expressed his belief that Fisher’s Stadium will result in the equivalent of a few hundred, permanent, long-term jobs. Fisher’s economic projections are detached from reality and unreliable. Fisher's history: His track record with the San Jose Quakes, another publicly funded stadium venture, raises concerns about his commitment to investing in player payroll and creating a competitive team. Fisher owns the Quakes. After he was given a public handout for a stadium, he did not change or competitively fund his soccer team. Troubled partnerships: Mark Davis of the Raiders, who shared the Oakland Coliseum with the A’s, has expressed frustration with Fisher's management group. MLB owners are also frustrated by doing business with Fisher. Nevada should expect to have the same experience if we proceed. I urge you to oppose public funding for John Fisher's stadium. Let's prioritize transparency, education, and responsible use of public funds for the benefit of all Nevada residents. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Please consider my perspective as you make your decision. Should you require further information or have any questions, I am available to discuss this issue. Sincerely, [Your Name]Feel free to modify, expand or use as-is. You can also write your own letter too. I'm just trying to make this as easy as possible for everyone so that we are HEARD!
TLDR Bullet Points For Big Argument Below:
- Oakland A’s owner John Fisher, and team President Dave Kaval, strategically released details about stadium funding to minimize public awareness and participation. They released the legislation on Friday of Memorial Day weekend and the only public hearing was on Memorial Day during the Golden Knights playoff game.
- Fisher and Kaval failed to even show up at the Memorial Day hearing, demonstrating a lack of accountability and a disregard for public concerns. They have never publicly answered any questions.
- The prioritization of funding for a sports stadium over public education in Nevada, particularly the Clark County School District, is concerning.
- Economic projections presented by Fisher's lobbyists are questionable and disconnected from reality, as experts have pointed out.
- Fisher's history with the San Jose Quakes of Major League Soccer raises doubts about his commitment to investing in a competitive team with public funds.
- The low payroll of the A's compared to other MLB teams suggests a strategy of minimizing expenses for greater profitability.
- Mark Davis, owner of the Raiders and A's shared the Oakland Coliseum, expressed personal animosity towards Fisher and his management approach. Other MLB owners have expressed similar frustration about doing business with Fisher.
- Elected leaders should consider these concerns and prioritize the needs of the community over the interests of wealthy individuals.
1. They Don’t Want to Hear From You
Fisher and Kaval strategically waited until the 11th hour to release details about the handout. From USA Today:
The A’s, their cadre of lobbyists in Nevada and friendly politicians and tourist officials are doing their best to hide the sausage, introducing, finally, legislation for state funding of myriad projects on the Friday night of a holiday weekend, and then offering public discussion on the evening of Memorial Day. Pretty slick! And it sounds like Gov. Joe Lombardo’s signature would be waiting.The only public hearing on giving away hundreds of millions of dollars occurred on Memorial Day. And not just on Memorial Day — it was in the evening during Game Six of the Western Conference Finals where the Golden Knights punched their tickets to the Stanley Cup Finals. A hearing at 4:00 AM on Christmas morning would have received a higher profile and greater public scrutiny.
They didn’t want you to know about the hearing and your opportunity to be heard. And if, by chance you did hear about it, they didn’t want you to be able to show up and be heard. They are not very subtle about their preference to not hear from you, the unwashed masses.
Guess who else wasn’t there? A’s owner John Fisher and President Dave Kaval. I am not making this up. They didn’t bother to show up to the Memorial Day hearing. They want us to give them hundreds of millions of dollars, but couldn’t be bothered to show up at the hearing and answer questions themselves? Where were they Monday night? What was so important they couldn’t be bothered to show up for a public hearing to answer questions in public? Fisher and his army of lobbyists have had weeks to meet privately with lawmakers behind closed doors. Are you telling me Fisher couldn’t give us regular folks two hours in public?
2. What Are Our Priorities?
There’s no way to sugarcoat it. Nevada, and in particular the Clark County School District, fail to provide adequate public education. Nevada ranks 49th out of 50 for educational attainment. Of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the United States, Las Vegas ranks second worst for schools. This is unacceptable, yet real education reform is never a priority for the same politicians who are willing to pull the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing shenanigans for Fisher.
If our elected officials can turn on a dime to hand out hundreds of millions of dollars to a billionaire for a sports stadium, why can’t they act with similar urgency for our disastrous public school system?
Our failed public schools, especially CCSD, are the most significant impediment to economic growth and diversification. The number one reason companies and individuals are reluctant to relocate to Las Vegas are our terrible public schools. If we want to create economic growth, we need to fund and fix our public schools, not build another billionaire a sports stadium.
3. The Numbers Don’t Make Sense. They’re Basically Fraud.
Whenever a billionaire asks the public to finance his stadium, the ask is always accompanied by a series of fantastical economic projections. If you watched the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing, you saw a powerpoint presentation made by Fisher’s hired lobbyists. The numbers presented by Fisher’s lobbyists aren’t simply slightly embellished, they are disconnected from reality.
First, there is the claim that Fisher’s publicly funded stadium will bring an additional 400,000 tourists. John Mehaffey breaks down this non-sensical claim in the Nevada Independent:
The 400,000 number seems inflated to me. The A’s host 81 baseball games per year. This projection assumes 4,938 tourists at each game that would otherwise not be in Las Vegas. Considering only one American League market is within a reasonable driving distance, most of these tourists would fly to see their home team. Many or most of these tourists would go to two or three games in a series to justify this travel. If the average number is two games, that puts 9,877 visitors in the stadium per home game. If those fans go to an entire three-game series, that number is 14,815. If the 1.8 million locals attendance prediction is accurate, and visiting fans tend to go to a series as opposed to just one game, the A’s project that they will sell out the stadium's 35,000-seat capacity every home game. If visitors go to only two games, that is 90 percent of capacity. That is a bold projection for a team that was last in attendance in 2022 and at the bottom so far in 2023, especially since no MLB team comes close to selling out all its home games. The lack of flights makes 400,000 new visitors seem impossible Most teams that would visit the Las Vegas A’s stadium are in the American League. Most are in the east where nonstop flights to Las Vegas are scarce. For example, I found five or fewer nonstop flights per day from six of the other 14 American League cities. Four of those six teams had home stadium attendance below 20,000 per game in 2022. It’s hard to imagine that 10,000 or 15,000 fans will fly across the country for a series when that is around the average attendance for the 81 home games in their own cities. Some displaced fans may be within driving distance, but the point is one that needs to be considered. Las Vegas would need dozens of flights per series that don’t exist to accommodate this prediction.Mehaffey also points out that Miami, which recently built a publicly financed stadium, also has 40 million visitors a year, just like Las Vegas. However, the Miami metro is substantially larger than Las Vegas. “In 2022, the Miami Marlins averaged 11,204 per game. A market with a much larger metro population that posts similar tourism numbers does not come close to the A’s projections. There is no reason to think Las Vegas will be different.”
Stanford economics professor Roger Noll agrees with Mehaffey that the attendance numbers Fisher projects are not credible. From USA Today:
“Baseball is different than the NFL,” Roger Noll, professor of economics emeritus at Stanford University, tells USA TODAY Sports. “This notion that of those 162 baseball games, I've got to see those three that are between the A's and the Royals in Las Vegas - it's just nonsense, right? It's not true, it's not going to happen. “That's the fundamental reason why economists, when they do research on the impact of sports teams, typically find that the effect on local incomes and employment is slightly negative.”But what about job creation?
Noll says the hours that stadium workers put in – for 81 games a year – computes to roughly 15% of a full-time job. “So the 500 people who work at the stadium on game day, you got to multiply that by .15 to get the number of full-time equivalent jobs, which means it's less than 100. Wow,” says Noll. “You know, $1.5 billion to create less than 100 jobs, right? Wow.”4. Grossly Underfunded Payroll
The total payroll for the 2023 A’s is just $59,630,474, just 37% of the MLB average payroll of $116,112,414 and just 17% of the highest-spending New York Mets ($345,474,042). To provide context, the highest paid players in the league, Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander, will each make $43,333,333. Verlander’s salary, by itself, is 72% of the entire A’s roster!
This meager spending is by choice, not necessity. It’s a strategy that works. From Sports Illustrated:
The A's were a top-5 team in 2022. Not on the field. The A's finished with a 60-102 record, second-worst only ahead of the Washington Nationals. On the spreadsheets though, they netted $62.2 million according to a report from Forbes. The only teams they finished behind were the revamped Seattle Mariners who made the playoffs for the first time in two decades, the San Francisco Giants, the Boston Red Sox, and the Baltimore Orioles who had a Mariners-esque upswing and an A's-esque payroll.When the A’s do develop talent, they quickly jettison those players to avoid paying them their true worth on the market. As Review-Journal columnist Ed Graney explained, when Fisher’s A’s have experienced success, the response has been to break down the team and sell off the parts. Graney concluded: “John Fisher is an owner with deep, deep pockets who (incredibly) has always acted in a way that he can’t afford to hand out exorbitant contracts to his best players. About him, an overwhelmingly popular opinion is that he simply doesn’t want to.”
Why do this? Wouldn’t a competitive team generate more revenue? In Major League Baseball, there is a revenue sharing agreement among the franchises, intended to help smaller markets field competitive teams. Fisher uses revenue sharing, and dumping talent, to be one of the most profitable owners in baseball. From the New York Post:
At least a few rival MLB club owners are annoyed at the Athletics for conducting a major fire sale to enhance their bottom line soon after being added as a new revenue-sharing recipient in a vote by owners. “The idea of revenue sharing is not to make money, it’s to field a competitive team,” one rival owner complained Thursday during the owners’ meetings at MLB headquarters in Midtown. “That money is supposed to go toward player salaries. [The A’s] took the money and put it in their pocket.” Yet another owner, also upset that the A’s didn’t use the money to buy new players, but instead did the opposite and sold three major stars and drastically cut their payroll, referred to the franchise generally as “a mess.”Fisher will not fund a competitive team in Las Vegas if we give him a stadium handout. That would destroy his very profitable business strategy. Why would he do that? The payroll of the Las Vegas A’s will be 30th out of 30 MLB teams, just like the Oakland A’s.
5. History Repeating: Quakes Publicly Funded Stadium
There seems to be some hopeful thinking that if we give John Fisher a stadium handout, he will increase the A’s payroll to become more competitive. A’s President Dave Kaval stirred excitement when he insinuated that the franchise would bankroll a World Series championship team with a new stadium in Las Vegas. “But with more revenues, we want to turn a playoff team into a World Series team. That’s why we’re fighting so hard for a new stadium, whether it’s in Las Vegas or Oakland,” Kaval told the Review-Journal.
Many people, including our elected officials, want to believe this, in good faith. It would be awesome to have a Las Vegas MLB franchise win a World Series!
This isn’t Fisher’s first rodeo with a publicly funded stadium. Fisher is also the owner of the San Jose Quakes of Major League Soccer. From an Associated Press article in the May 25, 2006 Salinas Californian on public financing for a new Quakes stadium: “The Quakes won MLS championships in 2001 and 2003 led by former star forward Landon Donovan but attendance slid to an average of just 13,037 fans last season.” Sound familiar?
So what happened? Did Fisher increase player payroll once he obtained his publicly financed soccer stadium?
From the San Jose Mercury News:
Out of the 29 MLS teams, the Earthquakes rank 21st in guaranteed player compensation and base salary, both on a per-player and teamwide basis. The Earthquakes’ average salary came in at $434,079, nearly $100,000 lower than the overall average salary for an MLS player ($530,467). San Jose’s total spending ($13.022 million) comes in at more than $2.8 million below the average team spending across the league (15.822 million). It’s a continued trend for the Quakes, even after they moved into the state-of-the-art PayPal Park in 2015. The Earthquakes have consistently ranked in the bottom half of the league in spending, per Spotrac, even as the MLS has continued to add new expansion teams over the years. Earthquakes spending rank in MLS by year · 2015 (20 teams) — 15th · 2016 (20 teams) — 11th · 2017 (22 teams) — 16th · 2018 (23 teams) — 19th · 2019 (24 teams) — 19th · 2020 (26 teams) — 17th · 2021 (27 teams) — 24th · 2022 (28 teams) — 22nd · 2023 (29 teams) — 21st That has been reflected in on-field results, too. Since the Earthquakes moved into their new home, they have never finished a season with more wins than losses — the closest they came was in that first year, at 13 wins, 13 losses and eight draws.Nevada should expect Fisher to act in the future as he has in the past. His business strategy is clear: spend as little as possible on player payroll regardless of venue. If Nevada gives Fisher a handout, nobody — nobody — can act surprised when his miserly payroll does not change.
The Raiders and A’s shared the Oakland Coliseum for decades. Aces and Raiders owner Mark Davis is very familiar with what it means to “partner” with John Fisher. Davis did not hold back when he spoke with the Review-Journal:
“I won’t forget what they did to us in Oakland. They squatted on a lease for 10 years and made it impossible for us to build on that stadium,” the Raiders owner said in a phone chat Thursday afternoon, referring to the stadium the A’s and Raiders once shared, the Oakland Coliseum. “They were looking for a stadium. We were looking for a stadium. They didn’t want to build a stadium, and then went ahead and signed a 10-year lease with the city of Oakland and said, ‘We’re the base team.’” … Davis was asked if he could envision an environment where the Silver and Black would cross-promote with the green-and-gold Las Vegas Athletics. “Not with that management group,” Davis said. “I just have, again, a lot of personal animosity toward the front office. But with a new management group? Absolutely.”Mark Davis did business with John Fisher for decades. Davis knows Fisher. Nobody in Nevada has done business with Fisher as much as Davis. Davis’ reaction to Fisher, basically unfiltered instinctual revulsion, should be a massive red flag to our elected leaders who are being plied with sweet nothings by Fisher’s hired guns.
Sources:
“A’s Stadium Math Doesn’t Add Up.” The Nevada Independent, May 30, 2023. https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/as-stadium-math-doesnt-add-up.
Graney, Ed. “Graney: A’s Penny-Pinching a Reason for Las Vegas to Reassess.” Journal, March 18, 2022. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/ed-graney/graney-as-penny-pinching-a-reason-for-las-vegas-to-reassess-2547852/.
Gutierrez, Ana. “Nevada Ranks as the Second Least Educated State in America.” KLAS, February 17, 2022. https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/nevada-ranks-as-the-second-least-educated-state-in-america/.
Jenkins, Bruce. “MLB Has Punished Other Owners. Why Is A’s John Fisher Getting a Pass?” San Francisco Chronicle, June 3, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/jenkins/article/john-fisher-mlb-oakland-18130516.php.
Katsilometes, John. “Raiders Owner Rips Oakland Athletics’ Likely Move to Las Vegas.” Journal, April 27, 2023. https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/raiders-owner-rips-oakland-athletics-likely-move-to-las-vegas-2765229/?xxyy.
Lacques, Gabe. “Why A’s Las Vegas Stadium Gambit May Be a Losing Bet: ‘It’s Just Nonsense.’” USA Today, June 1, 2023. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/athletics/2023/06/01/oakland-as-move-las-vegas-stadium-gambit-losing-bet/70277528007/.
Lozito, Nick. “‘this Is Not Our Fault:’ Oakland A’s Fans Are Defending Their Image.” The Oaklandside, May 5, 2023. https://oaklandside.org/2023/05/01/oakland-athletics-leaving-las-vegas-john-fisher-dave-kaval-fans/.
“MLB 2023 Payroll Tracker.” Spotrac.com. Accessed June 3, 2023. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/.
Oakland Athletics made over $60 million in 2023 - Sports Illustrated ... Accessed June 4, 2023. https://www.si.com/mlb/athletics/news/oakland-athletics-made-over-60-million-in-2023.
Shea, John. “Don’t Believe John Fisher’s Propaganda: A’s Fans Are the Best in Baseball.” San Francisco Chronicle, June 1, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/athletics/article/oakland-a-s-fans-aren-t-reason-team-las-vegas-18126429.php.
Simon, Alex. “Would New Oakland A’s Ballpark Lead to More Spending? John Fisher’s Other Team Shows That May Not Be the Case.” The Mercury News, May 17, 2023. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/05/16/would-new-oakland-as-ballpark-lead-to-more-spending-john-fishers-other-team-shows-that-may-not-be-the-case/.
Wootton-Greener, Julie. “Las Vegas Area Schools Ranked Second-Worst in Nation for Quality.” Journal, December 9, 2021. https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/education/las-vegas-area-schools-ranked-second-worst-in-nation-for-quality-2493177/.
2023.06.04 03:48 BigBlueMagic BE HEARD!!! Last Chance To Stop the Legislature From Giving Away Hundreds of Millions in Terrible Stadium Handout!!!!!!!
Hey Everybody!!!
I just want to keep you in the loop on what’s going on with Oakland A’s owner John Fisher’s request to have the Nevada Legislature give him up to $380 million in public funds for a new stadium. The Legislative session ENDS MONDAY, which means that they will ram this through very quickly in the next 48 hours or so or call a special session.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK OUT!!!! I have put together a fairly well-documented argument below demonstrating that this is a bad deal and Fisher is a terrible partner. Please share this post and information as widely as you can! Most importantly, contact members of the Legislature and BE HEARD!!! Be sure to tell them that you live in Nevada!!!
Contact your Assemblyperson and State Senator!!
Assembly contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Assembly/Current
State Senate Contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Senate/Current
If you would like, you could use or modify this sample letter which contains URL links supporting the claims.
TLDR Bullet Points For Big Argument Below:
1. They Don’t Want to Hear From You
Fisher and Kaval strategically waited until the 11th hour to release details about the handout. From USA Today:
They didn’t want you to know about the hearing and your opportunity to be heard. And if, by chance you did hear about it, they didn’t want you to be able to show up and be heard. They are not very subtle about their preference to not hear from you, the unwashed masses.
Guess who else wasn’t there? A’s owner John Fisher and President Dave Kaval. I am not making this up. They didn’t bother to show up to the Memorial Day hearing. They want us to give them hundreds of millions of dollars, but couldn’t be bothered to show up at the hearing and answer questions themselves? Where were they Monday night? What was so important they couldn’t be bothered to show up for a public hearing to answer questions in public? Fisher and his army of lobbyists have had weeks to meet privately with lawmakers behind closed doors. Are you telling me Fisher couldn’t give us regular folks two hours in public?
2. What Are Our Priorities?
There’s no way to sugarcoat it. Nevada, and in particular the Clark County School District, fail to provide adequate public education. Nevada ranks 49th out of 50 for educational attainment. Of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the United States, Las Vegas ranks second worst for schools. This is unacceptable, yet real education reform is never a priority for the same politicians who are willing to pull the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing shenanigans for Fisher.
If our elected officials can turn on a dime to hand out hundreds of millions of dollars to a billionaire for a sports stadium, why can’t they act with similar urgency for our disastrous public school system?
Our failed public schools, especially CCSD, are the most significant impediment to economic growth and diversification. The number one reason companies and individuals are reluctant to relocate to Las Vegas are our terrible public schools. If we want to create economic growth, we need to fund and fix our public schools, not build another billionaire a sports stadium.
3. The Numbers Don’t Make Sense. They’re Basically Fraud.
Whenever a billionaire asks the public to finance his stadium, the ask is always accompanied by a series of fantastical economic projections. If you watched the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing, you saw a powerpoint presentation made by Fisher’s hired lobbyists. The numbers presented by Fisher’s lobbyists aren’t simply slightly embellished, they are disconnected from reality.
First, there is the claim that Fisher’s publicly funded stadium will bring an additional 400,000 tourists. John Mehaffey breaks down this non-sensical claim in the Nevada Independent:
Stanford economics professor Roger Noll agrees with Mehaffey that the attendance numbers Fisher projects are not credible. From USA Today:
The total payroll for the 2023 A’s is just $59,630,474, just 37% of the MLB average payroll of $116,112,414 and just 17% of the highest-spending New York Mets ($345,474,042). To provide context, the highest paid players in the league, Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander, will each make $43,333,333. Verlander’s salary, by itself, is 72% of the entire A’s roster!
This meager spending is by choice, not necessity. It’s a strategy that works. From Sports Illustrated:
Why do this? Wouldn’t a competitive team generate more revenue? In Major League Baseball, there is a revenue sharing agreement among the franchises, intended to help smaller markets field competitive teams. Fisher uses revenue sharing, and dumping talent, to be one of the most profitable owners in baseball. From the New York Post:
5. History Repeating: Quakes Publicly Funded Stadium
There seems to be some hopeful thinking that if we give John Fisher a stadium handout, he will increase the A’s payroll to become more competitive. A’s President Dave Kaval stirred excitement when he insinuated that the franchise would bankroll a World Series championship team with a new stadium in Las Vegas. “But with more revenues, we want to turn a playoff team into a World Series team. That’s why we’re fighting so hard for a new stadium, whether it’s in Las Vegas or Oakland,” Kaval told the Review-Journal.
Many people, including our elected officials, want to believe this, in good faith. It would be awesome to have a Las Vegas MLB franchise win a World Series!
This isn’t Fisher’s first rodeo with a publicly funded stadium. Fisher is also the owner of the San Jose Quakes of Major League Soccer. From an Associated Press article in the May 25, 2006 Salinas Californian on public financing for a new Quakes stadium: “The Quakes won MLS championships in 2001 and 2003 led by former star forward Landon Donovan but attendance slid to an average of just 13,037 fans last season.” Sound familiar?
So what happened? Did Fisher increase player payroll once he obtained his publicly financed soccer stadium?
From the San Jose Mercury News:
The Raiders and A’s shared the Oakland Coliseum for decades. Aces and Raiders owner Mark Davis is very familiar with what it means to “partner” with John Fisher. Davis did not hold back when he spoke with the Review-Journal:
Sources:
“A’s Stadium Math Doesn’t Add Up.” The Nevada Independent, May 30, 2023. https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/as-stadium-math-doesnt-add-up.
Graney, Ed. “Graney: A’s Penny-Pinching a Reason for Las Vegas to Reassess.” Journal, March 18, 2022. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/ed-graney/graney-as-penny-pinching-a-reason-for-las-vegas-to-reassess-2547852/.
Gutierrez, Ana. “Nevada Ranks as the Second Least Educated State in America.” KLAS, February 17, 2022. https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/nevada-ranks-as-the-second-least-educated-state-in-america/.
Jenkins, Bruce. “MLB Has Punished Other Owners. Why Is A’s John Fisher Getting a Pass?” San Francisco Chronicle, June 3, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/jenkins/article/john-fisher-mlb-oakland-18130516.php.
Katsilometes, John. “Raiders Owner Rips Oakland Athletics’ Likely Move to Las Vegas.” Journal, April 27, 2023. https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/raiders-owner-rips-oakland-athletics-likely-move-to-las-vegas-2765229/?xxyy.
Lacques, Gabe. “Why A’s Las Vegas Stadium Gambit May Be a Losing Bet: ‘It’s Just Nonsense.’” USA Today, June 1, 2023. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/athletics/2023/06/01/oakland-as-move-las-vegas-stadium-gambit-losing-bet/70277528007/.
Lozito, Nick. “‘this Is Not Our Fault:’ Oakland A’s Fans Are Defending Their Image.” The Oaklandside, May 5, 2023. https://oaklandside.org/2023/05/01/oakland-athletics-leaving-las-vegas-john-fisher-dave-kaval-fans/.
“MLB 2023 Payroll Tracker.” Spotrac.com. Accessed June 3, 2023. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/.
Oakland Athletics made over $60 million in 2023 - Sports Illustrated ... Accessed June 4, 2023. https://www.si.com/mlb/athletics/news/oakland-athletics-made-over-60-million-in-2023.
Shea, John. “Don’t Believe John Fisher’s Propaganda: A’s Fans Are the Best in Baseball.” San Francisco Chronicle, June 1, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/athletics/article/oakland-a-s-fans-aren-t-reason-team-las-vegas-18126429.php.
Simon, Alex. “Would New Oakland A’s Ballpark Lead to More Spending? John Fisher’s Other Team Shows That May Not Be the Case.” The Mercury News, May 17, 2023. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/05/16/would-new-oakland-as-ballpark-lead-to-more-spending-john-fishers-other-team-shows-that-may-not-be-the-case/.
Wootton-Greener, Julie. “Las Vegas Area Schools Ranked Second-Worst in Nation for Quality.” Journal, December 9, 2021. https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/education/las-vegas-area-schools-ranked-second-worst-in-nation-for-quality-2493177/.
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I just want to keep you in the loop on what’s going on with Oakland A’s owner John Fisher’s request to have the Nevada Legislature give him up to $380 million in public funds for a new stadium. The Legislative session ENDS MONDAY, which means that they will ram this through very quickly in the next 48 hours or so or call a special session.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK OUT!!!! I have put together a fairly well-documented argument below demonstrating that this is a bad deal and Fisher is a terrible partner. Please share this post and information as widely as you can! Most importantly, contact members of the Legislature and BE HEARD!!! Be sure to tell them that you live in Nevada!!!
Contact your Assemblyperson and State Senator!!
Assembly contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Assembly/Current
State Senate Contact info: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/LegislatoA/Senate/Current
If you would like, you could use or modify this sample letter which contains URL links supporting the claims.
Dear Senator or Assemblyperson [Last Name],Feel free to modify, expand or use as-is. You can also write your own letter too. I'm just trying to make this as easy as possible for everyone so that we are HEARD!
I am writing to express my strong opposition to the proposed public funding for John Fisher's baseball stadium in Nevada. I believe this project should be stopped for several reasons:
Lack of transparency: Fisher and his team deliberately released funding details at the last minute and scheduled the only public hearing on Memorial Day evening, during a Golden Knights playoff game, limiting public awareness and participation. This is a shameful subversion of democracy and I hope you had no part in it.
Neglected education system: Nevada ranks 49th out of 50 in educational attainment. Our focus should be on improving public schools, not funding a billionaire's stadium.
Unrealistic economic projections: Expert analysis discredits the claim that the stadium will attract an additional 400,000 tourists, which, even if true, would only be a 1% increase on an annual basis. A Stanford economics professor expressed his belief that Fisher’s Stadium will result in the equivalent of a few hundred, permanent, long-term jobs. Fisher’s economic projections are detached from reality and unreliable.
Fisher's history: His track record with the San Jose Quakes, another publicly funded stadium venture, raises concerns about his commitment to investing in player payroll and creating a competitive team. Fisher owns the Quakes. After he was given a public handout for a stadium, he did not change or competitively fund his soccer team.
Troubled partnerships: Mark Davis of the Raiders, who shared the Oakland Coliseum with the A’s, has expressed frustration with Fisher's management group. MLB owners are also frustrated by doing business with Fisher. Nevada should expect to have the same experience if we proceed.
I urge you to oppose public funding for John Fisher's stadium. Let's prioritize transparency, education, and responsible use of public funds for the benefit of all Nevada residents.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Please consider my perspective as you make your decision. Should you require further information or have any questions, I am available to discuss this issue.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
TLDR Bullet Points For Big Argument Below:
- Oakland A’s owner John Fisher, and team President Dave Kaval, strategically released details about stadium funding to minimize public awareness and participation. They released the legislation on Friday of Memorial Day weekend and the only public hearing was on Memorial Day during the Golden Knights playoff game.
- Fisher and Kaval failed to even show up at the Memorial Day hearing, demonstrating a lack of accountability and a disregard for public concerns. They have never publicly answered any questions.
- The prioritization of funding for a sports stadium over public education in Nevada, particularly the Clark County School District, is concerning.
- Economic projections presented by Fisher's lobbyists are questionable and disconnected from reality, as experts have pointed out.
- Fisher's history with the San Jose Quakes of Major League Soccer raises doubts about his commitment to investing in a competitive team with public funds.
- The low payroll of the A's compared to other MLB teams suggests a strategy of minimizing expenses for greater profitability.
- Mark Davis, owner of the Raiders and A's shared the Oakland Coliseum, expressed personal animosity towards Fisher and his management approach. Other MLB owners have expressed similar frustration about doing business with Fisher.
- Elected leaders should consider these concerns and prioritize the needs of the community over the interests of wealthy individuals.
1. They Don’t Want to Hear From You
Fisher and Kaval strategically waited until the 11th hour to release details about the handout. From USA Today:
The A’s, their cadre of lobbyists in Nevada and friendly politicians and tourist officials are doing their best to hide the sausage, introducing, finally, legislation for state funding of myriad projects on the Friday night of a holiday weekend, and then offering public discussion on the evening of Memorial Day.The only public hearing on giving away hundreds of millions of dollars occurred on Memorial Day. And not just on Memorial Day — it was in the evening during Game Six of the Western Conference Finals where the Golden Knights punched their tickets to the Stanley Cup Finals. A hearing at 4:00 AM on Christmas morning would have received a higher profile and greater public scrutiny.
Pretty slick! And it sounds like Gov. Joe Lombardo’s signature would be waiting.
They didn’t want you to know about the hearing and your opportunity to be heard. And if, by chance you did hear about it, they didn’t want you to be able to show up and be heard. They are not very subtle about their preference to not hear from you, the unwashed masses.
Guess who else wasn’t there? A’s owner John Fisher and President Dave Kaval. I am not making this up. They didn’t bother to show up to the Memorial Day hearing. They want us to give them hundreds of millions of dollars, but couldn’t be bothered to show up at the hearing and answer questions themselves? Where were they Monday night? What was so important they couldn’t be bothered to show up for a public hearing to answer questions in public? Fisher and his army of lobbyists have had weeks to meet privately with lawmakers behind closed doors. Are you telling me Fisher couldn’t give us regular folks two hours in public?
2. What Are Our Priorities?
There’s no way to sugarcoat it. Nevada, and in particular the Clark County School District, fail to provide adequate public education. Nevada ranks 49th out of 50 for educational attainment. Of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the United States, Las Vegas ranks second worst for schools. This is unacceptable, yet real education reform is never a priority for the same politicians who are willing to pull the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing shenanigans for Fisher.
If our elected officials can turn on a dime to hand out hundreds of millions of dollars to a billionaire for a sports stadium, why can’t they act with similar urgency for our disastrous public school system?
Our failed public schools, especially CCSD, are the most significant impediment to economic growth and diversification. The number one reason companies and individuals are reluctant to relocate to Las Vegas are our terrible public schools. If we want to create economic growth, we need to fund and fix our public schools, not build another billionaire a sports stadium.
3. The Numbers Don’t Make Sense. They’re Basically Fraud.
Whenever a billionaire asks the public to finance his stadium, the ask is always accompanied by a series of fantastical economic projections. If you watched the Memorial Day/Stanley Cup Playoff hearing, you saw a powerpoint presentation made by Fisher’s hired lobbyists. The numbers presented by Fisher’s lobbyists aren’t simply slightly embellished, they are disconnected from reality.
First, there is the claim that Fisher’s publicly funded stadium will bring an additional 400,000 tourists. John Mehaffey breaks down this non-sensical claim in the Nevada Independent:
The 400,000 number seems inflated to me. The A’s host 81 baseball games per year. This projection assumes 4,938 tourists at each game that would otherwise not be in Las Vegas.Mehaffey also points out that Miami, which recently built a publicly financed stadium, also has 40 million visitors a year, just like Las Vegas. However, the Miami metro is substantially larger than Las Vegas. “In 2022, the Miami Marlins averaged 11,204 per game. A market with a much larger metro population that posts similar tourism numbers does not come close to the A’s projections. There is no reason to think Las Vegas will be different.”
Considering only one American League market is within a reasonable driving distance, most of these tourists would fly to see their home team. Many or most of these tourists would go to two or three games in a series to justify this travel.
If the average number is two games, that puts 9,877 visitors in the stadium per home game. If those fans go to an entire three-game series, that number is 14,815. If the 1.8 million locals attendance prediction is accurate, and visiting fans tend to go to a series as opposed to just one game, the A’s project that they will sell out the stadium's 35,000-seat capacity every home game. If visitors go to only two games, that is 90 percent of capacity.
That is a bold projection for a team that was last in attendance in 2022 and at the bottom so far in 2023, especially since no MLB team comes close to selling out all its home games.
The lack of flights makes 400,000 new visitors seem impossible
Most teams that would visit the Las Vegas A’s stadium are in the American League. Most are in the east where nonstop flights to Las Vegas are scarce. For example, I found five or fewer nonstop flights per day from six of the other 14 American League cities.
Four of those six teams had home stadium attendance below 20,000 per game in 2022. It’s hard to imagine that 10,000 or 15,000 fans will fly across the country for a series when that is around the average attendance for the 81 home games in their own cities.
Some displaced fans may be within driving distance, but the point is one that needs to be considered. Las Vegas would need dozens of flights per series that don’t exist to accommodate this prediction.
Stanford economics professor Roger Noll agrees with Mehaffey that the attendance numbers Fisher projects are not credible. From USA Today:
“Baseball is different than the NFL,” Roger Noll, professor of economics emeritus at Stanford University, tells USA TODAY Sports. “This notion that of those 162 baseball games, I've got to see those three that are between the A's and the Royals in Las Vegas - it's just nonsense, right? It's not true, it's not going to happen.But what about job creation?
“That's the fundamental reason why economists, when they do research on the impact of sports teams, typically find that the effect on local incomes and employment is slightly negative.”
Noll says the hours that stadium workers put in – for 81 games a year – computes to roughly 15% of a full-time job.4. Grossly Underfunded Payroll
“So the 500 people who work at the stadium on game day, you got to multiply that by .15 to get the number of full-time equivalent jobs, which means it's less than 100. Wow,” says Noll. “You know, $1.5 billion to create less than 100 jobs, right? Wow.”
The total payroll for the 2023 A’s is just $59,630,474, just 37% of the MLB average payroll of $116,112,414 and just 17% of the highest-spending New York Mets ($345,474,042). To provide context, the highest paid players in the league, Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander, will each make $43,333,333. Verlander’s salary, by itself, is 72% of the entire A’s roster!
This meager spending is by choice, not necessity. It’s a strategy that works. From Sports Illustrated:
The A's were a top-5 team in 2022.When the A’s do develop talent, they quickly jettison those players to avoid paying them their true worth on the market. As Review-Journal columnist Ed Graney explained, when Fisher’s A’s have experienced success, the response has been to break down the team and sell off the parts. Graney concluded: “John Fisher is an owner with deep, deep pockets who (incredibly) has always acted in a way that he can’t afford to hand out exorbitant contracts to his best players. About him, an overwhelmingly popular opinion is that he simply doesn’t want to.”
Not on the field. The A's finished with a 60-102 record, second-worst only ahead of the Washington Nationals. On the spreadsheets though, they netted $62.2 million according to a report from Forbes. The only teams they finished behind were the revamped Seattle Mariners who made the playoffs for the first time in two decades, the San Francisco Giants, the Boston Red Sox, and the Baltimore Orioles who had a Mariners-esque upswing and an A's-esque payroll.
Why do this? Wouldn’t a competitive team generate more revenue? In Major League Baseball, there is a revenue sharing agreement among the franchises, intended to help smaller markets field competitive teams. Fisher uses revenue sharing, and dumping talent, to be one of the most profitable owners in baseball. From the New York Post:
At least a few rival MLB club owners are annoyed at the Athletics for conducting a major fire sale to enhance their bottom line soon after being added as a new revenue-sharing recipient in a vote by owners.Fisher will not fund a competitive team in Las Vegas if we give him a stadium handout. That would destroy his very profitable business strategy. Why would he do that? The payroll of the Las Vegas A’s will be 30th out of 30 MLB teams, just like the Oakland A’s.
“The idea of revenue sharing is not to make money, it’s to field a competitive team,” one rival owner complained Thursday during the owners’ meetings at MLB headquarters in Midtown. “That money is supposed to go toward player salaries. [The A’s] took the money and put it in their pocket.”
Yet another owner, also upset that the A’s didn’t use the money to buy new players, but instead did the opposite and sold three major stars and drastically cut their payroll, referred to the franchise generally as “a mess.”
5. History Repeating: Quakes Publicly Funded Stadium
There seems to be some hopeful thinking that if we give John Fisher a stadium handout, he will increase the A’s payroll to become more competitive. A’s President Dave Kaval stirred excitement when he insinuated that the franchise would bankroll a World Series championship team with a new stadium in Las Vegas. “But with more revenues, we want to turn a playoff team into a World Series team. That’s why we’re fighting so hard for a new stadium, whether it’s in Las Vegas or Oakland,” Kaval told the Review-Journal.
Many people, including our elected officials, want to believe this, in good faith. It would be awesome to have a Las Vegas MLB franchise win a World Series!
This isn’t Fisher’s first rodeo with a publicly funded stadium. Fisher is also the owner of the San Jose Quakes of Major League Soccer. From an Associated Press article in the May 25, 2006 Salinas Californian on public financing for a new Quakes stadium: “The Quakes won MLS championships in 2001 and 2003 led by former star forward Landon Donovan but attendance slid to an average of just 13,037 fans last season.” Sound familiar?
So what happened? Did Fisher increase player payroll once he obtained his publicly financed soccer stadium?
From the San Jose Mercury News:
Out of the 29 MLS teams, the Earthquakes rank 21st in guaranteed player compensation and base salary, both on a per-player and teamwide basis.Nevada should expect Fisher to act in the future as he has in the past. His business strategy is clear: spend as little as possible on player payroll regardless of venue. If Nevada gives Fisher a handout, nobody — nobody — can act surprised when his miserly payroll does not change.
The Earthquakes’ average salary came in at $434,079, nearly $100,000 lower than the overall average salary for an MLS player ($530,467). San Jose’s total spending ($13.022 million) comes in at more than $2.8 million below the average team spending across the league (15.822 million).
It’s a continued trend for the Quakes, even after they moved into the state-of-the-art PayPal Park in 2015. The Earthquakes have consistently ranked in the bottom half of the league in spending, per Spotrac, even as the MLS has continued to add new expansion teams over the years.
Earthquakes spending rank in MLS by year
· 2015 (20 teams) — 15th
· 2016 (20 teams) — 11th
· 2017 (22 teams) — 16th
· 2018 (23 teams) — 19th
· 2019 (24 teams) — 19th
· 2020 (26 teams) — 17th
· 2021 (27 teams) — 24th
· 2022 (28 teams) — 22nd
· 2023 (29 teams) — 21st
That has been reflected in on-field results, too. Since the Earthquakes moved into their new home, they have never finished a season with more wins than losses — the closest they came was in that first year, at 13 wins, 13 losses and eight draws.
The Raiders and A’s shared the Oakland Coliseum for decades. Aces and Raiders owner Mark Davis is very familiar with what it means to “partner” with John Fisher. Davis did not hold back when he spoke with the Review-Journal:
“I won’t forget what they did to us in Oakland. They squatted on a lease for 10 years and made it impossible for us to build on that stadium,” the Raiders owner said in a phone chat Thursday afternoon, referring to the stadium the A’s and Raiders once shared, the Oakland Coliseum.Mark Davis did business with John Fisher for decades. Davis knows Fisher. Nobody in Nevada has done business with Fisher as much as Davis. Davis’ reaction to Fisher, basically unfiltered instinctual revulsion, should be a massive red flag to our elected leaders who are being plied with sweet nothings by Fisher’s hired guns.
“They were looking for a stadium. We were looking for a stadium. They didn’t want to build a stadium, and then went ahead and signed a 10-year lease with the city of Oakland and said, ‘We’re the base team.’”
…
Davis was asked if he could envision an environment where the Silver and Black would cross-promote with the green-and-gold Las Vegas Athletics.
“Not with that management group,” Davis said. “I just have, again, a lot of personal animosity toward the front office. But with a new management group? Absolutely.”
Sources:
“A’s Stadium Math Doesn’t Add Up.” The Nevada Independent, May 30, 2023. https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/as-stadium-math-doesnt-add-up.
Graney, Ed. “Graney: A’s Penny-Pinching a Reason for Las Vegas to Reassess.” Journal, March 18, 2022. https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/ed-graney/graney-as-penny-pinching-a-reason-for-las-vegas-to-reassess-2547852/.
Gutierrez, Ana. “Nevada Ranks as the Second Least Educated State in America.” KLAS, February 17, 2022. https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/nevada-ranks-as-the-second-least-educated-state-in-america/.
Jenkins, Bruce. “MLB Has Punished Other Owners. Why Is A’s John Fisher Getting a Pass?” San Francisco Chronicle, June 3, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/jenkins/article/john-fisher-mlb-oakland-18130516.php.
Katsilometes, John. “Raiders Owner Rips Oakland Athletics’ Likely Move to Las Vegas.” Journal, April 27, 2023. https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/raiders-owner-rips-oakland-athletics-likely-move-to-las-vegas-2765229/?xxyy.
Lacques, Gabe. “Why A’s Las Vegas Stadium Gambit May Be a Losing Bet: ‘It’s Just Nonsense.’” USA Today, June 1, 2023. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/athletics/2023/06/01/oakland-as-move-las-vegas-stadium-gambit-losing-bet/70277528007/.
Lozito, Nick. “‘this Is Not Our Fault:’ Oakland A’s Fans Are Defending Their Image.” The Oaklandside, May 5, 2023. https://oaklandside.org/2023/05/01/oakland-athletics-leaving-las-vegas-john-fisher-dave-kaval-fans/.
“MLB 2023 Payroll Tracker.” Spotrac.com. Accessed June 3, 2023. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/.
Oakland Athletics made over $60 million in 2023 - Sports Illustrated ... Accessed June 4, 2023. https://www.si.com/mlb/athletics/news/oakland-athletics-made-over-60-million-in-2023.
Shea, John. “Don’t Believe John Fisher’s Propaganda: A’s Fans Are the Best in Baseball.” San Francisco Chronicle, June 1, 2023. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/athletics/article/oakland-a-s-fans-aren-t-reason-team-las-vegas-18126429.php.
Simon, Alex. “Would New Oakland A’s Ballpark Lead to More Spending? John Fisher’s Other Team Shows That May Not Be the Case.” The Mercury News, May 17, 2023. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/05/16/would-new-oakland-as-ballpark-lead-to-more-spending-john-fishers-other-team-shows-that-may-not-be-the-case/.
Wootton-Greener, Julie. “Las Vegas Area Schools Ranked Second-Worst in Nation for Quality.” Journal, December 9, 2021. https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/education/las-vegas-area-schools-ranked-second-worst-in-nation-for-quality-2493177/.
2023.06.03 05:04 beforetherodeo [Svrluga] Phillies payroll via Spotrac: $215M, fourth in MLB Nats: $62M, 24th Phillies: 25-32 Nats: 25-32 Interesting NL East season!
![[Svrluga] Phillies payroll via Spotrac: $215M, fourth in MLB Nats: $62M, 24th Phillies: 25-32 Nats: 25-32 Interesting NL East season!](https://external-preview.redd.it/hfPsY7kybjxMRiOUe7LyQ67rQVxHUW_IepX3vRmqrhk.jpg?width=108&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a9f869827d18c2a563ff0ddfd6acace5efd8e829 "[Svrluga] Phillies payroll via Spotrac: $215M, fourth in MLB Nats: $62M, 24th Phillies: 25-32 Nats: 25-32 Interesting NL East season!") | submitted by beforetherodeo to baseball [link] [comments] |
2023.05.31 23:09 flountown Using Historical Goalie Trades to See What the Top End Value Could be for Carter Hart
I decided to go back through some historical data on goalie trades back to the 2010 season. Through discussions here, Cap Friendly, and HF Boards, I have a feeling that we are likely to be very whelmed, if not disappointed if Danny doesn't absolutely fleece a team or get creative with a cap dump adding value to the return. The data as a whole looks very bleak when it comes to goalie values in trade, but there were a few highlights, and hey let's be positive and hopeful! Below are the best trades from a value perspective in chronological order. I am working on more analysis to try and compare age/stats later to better contextualize these trades vs. Carter Hart, but for now just showcasing what appears to be the best returns on an offseason goalie trade.
*David Legwand was included in the Lehner trade
For some fun (lol pain) here are the Flyers trades since 2010 other than low end prospects and future consideration trades.
*Someone on HF Boards mentioned the 2019 3rd didn't convey, due to conditionals, and we got Attard with that pick (It's the small wins!)
I got all the data from https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/transactions/goaltendetrade/ and did some tedious sorting/compiling in Excel. I did my best to breakdown season, timing in the season (offseason, in-season, deadline) and then pruned some future considerations trades, deals where the goalie involved was a minor leaguer or far off prospect. In the future gonna see what some Cap Dump trades might be worth and whether the Flyers could exploit player trades, cap dump dollars received, and creative use of cap retention to do some wheeling and dealing in the offseason. Thanks for reading.
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| Season | Goalie | Return |
|---|---|---|
| 21-22 | Darcy Kuemper | Connor Timmins, 1st-2022, 3rd-2024 |
| 16-17 | Frederik Andersen | 1st-2016 (#30 OVR), 2nd-2017 |
| 15-16 | Martin Jones | 1st-2016 (#29 OVR), Sean Kuraly |
| 15-16 | Robin Lehner * | 1st-205 (#21 OVR) |
| 13-14 | Cory Schneider | 1st-2013 (#9 OVR) |
| 11-12 | Semyon Varlamov | 1st-2012 (#11 OVR), 2nd-2012 |
For some fun (lol pain) here are the Flyers trades since 2010 other than low end prospects and future consideration trades.
| Season | Timing | Flyers Get | Flyers Give |
|---|---|---|---|
| 18-19 | DL | Cam Talbot | Anthony Stolarz |
| 17-18 | DL | Petr Mrazek | 3rd-2018, |
| 12-13 | DL | Steve Mason | 3rd-2013, Michael Fucking Leighton |
| 12-13 | OS | 2nd-2012, 4th-2012, 4th-2013 | Sergei Bobrovsky |
| 11-12 | OS | Ilya Brygalov's Rights | 3rd-2012, Matt Clackson |
I got all the data from https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/transactions/goaltendetrade/ and did some tedious sorting/compiling in Excel. I did my best to breakdown season, timing in the season (offseason, in-season, deadline) and then pruned some future considerations trades, deals where the goalie involved was a minor leaguer or far off prospect. In the future gonna see what some Cap Dump trades might be worth and whether the Flyers could exploit player trades, cap dump dollars received, and creative use of cap retention to do some wheeling and dealing in the offseason. Thanks for reading.
2023.05.30 22:37 AashyLarry Breaking Down Jaylen Brown’s possible 5-Year Super-Max Deal with the Boston Celtics — Year 1: $50 Million, Year 2: $54 Million, Year 3: $58 Million, Year 4: $62 Million, Year 5: $66 Million — Total: $290 Million.
Source
Breaking Down Jaylen Brown’s possible 5-Year Super-Max Deal with the Boston Celtics:
The numbers above are using a conservative salary cap projection of $143 million for 2024-2025, so these numbers could slightly fluctuate, and possibly be higher.
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Breaking Down Jaylen Brown’s possible 5-Year Super-Max Deal with the Boston Celtics:
- Year 1: $50 Million
- Year 2: $54 Million
- Year 3: $58 Million
- Year 4: $62 Million
- Year 5: $66 Million
- Total: $290 Million.
The numbers above are using a conservative salary cap projection of $143 million for 2024-2025, so these numbers could slightly fluctuate, and possibly be higher.
2023.05.28 01:41 GanacheInfinite it’s not like he was beneficial to the celtics this series anyways. he has played awful each game. either way, HEAT IN 6.
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2023.05.26 19:39 Goeasyimhigh Who do we want in free agency?
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/
My list in no intentional order is:
Poeltl Walker IV Porzingis Lyles
Tell me I’m right or yknow don’t
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My list in no intentional order is:
Poeltl Walker IV Porzingis Lyles
Tell me I’m right or yknow don’t
2023.05.24 16:53 Super-Vast5420 Unpopular opinion but the Rockets should wait to spend big
 | The 2024 off-season will have much more valued players that the Rockets can sign rather than exhausting all of their assets by trading young promising players and picks this year. I say add veteran players that will drastically contribute to this team without breaking the bank. If the Rockets can keep their young core and not trade them as well as keep the Nets picks and still have a lot of caps space to sign 1 or 2 pending FA’s I think they should instead of worrying about the Thunder getting our pick. submitted by Super-Vast5420 to rockets [link] [comments] |
2023.05.24 06:24 kl1992 Hypothetical Off-Season Scenario
Correct me if I’m wrong here. But if Kyrie is willing to take around $30 mil then can we do the following?
The 2023 salary cap is $134 mil.
Release all other cap holds and trade the 17th pick for a future first.
Cap space remaining $31.4 mil for Kyrie.
I read that due to the Arenas rule the first two years of Austin’s salary will be capped at $12 mil and the remaining will be loaded into his final two years.
According to Spotrac, we have the following available for the 2023-2024 season:
Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception Details is awarded annually to teams who are above the cap but below the Luxury Tax Apron ($170,461,000) and can be used for contracts up to 4 years in length.
Bi-Annual Exception Details is available to any teams who are below the Luxury Tax Apron ($170,461,000) and did not use this exception in the previous season. It can be used for contracts up to 2 years in length.
So if the Lakers get Kyrie at a discount, the roster salary would roughly be:
This leaves about $17 mil for 7 vet min players.
Let me know if I made any errors. Of course, the numbers are not exact and all this is hypothetical.
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| Player | Salary |
|---|---|
| Bron | $ 47 million |
| AD | $ 40 million |
| Austin (Cap Hold) | $ 2.2 million |
| Vando | $ 4.7 million |
| Max | $ 2.2 million |
| 7 Incomplete Roster Charge | $ 7 million ( about $ 1 mil each) |
| Total | $102.6 million |
The 2023 salary cap is $134 mil.
Release all other cap holds and trade the 17th pick for a future first.
Cap space remaining $31.4 mil for Kyrie.
I read that due to the Arenas rule the first two years of Austin’s salary will be capped at $12 mil and the remaining will be loaded into his final two years.
According to Spotrac, we have the following available for the 2023-2024 season:
Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception Details is awarded annually to teams who are above the cap but below the Luxury Tax Apron ($170,461,000) and can be used for contracts up to 4 years in length.
Bi-Annual Exception Details is available to any teams who are below the Luxury Tax Apron ($170,461,000) and did not use this exception in the previous season. It can be used for contracts up to 2 years in length.
So if the Lakers get Kyrie at a discount, the roster salary would roughly be:
| Player | Salary |
|---|---|
| Lebron | $47 million |
| AD | $40 million |
| Kyrie | $31 million |
| Austin | $12 million |
| Vando | $4.7 million |
| Max | $1.7 million |
| non-tax mid-level | $12.2 million |
| Bi-Annual | $4.5 million |
| Total | $153.1 million |
This leaves about $17 mil for 7 vet min players.
Let me know if I made any errors. Of course, the numbers are not exact and all this is hypothetical.
2023.05.24 03:22 brtnrider This is more depressing than this game.
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2023.05.23 16:33 puntersarepeopletoo6 [OC] Who Is Your Team's Punter? Predicting Punter Positional Battles for 2023
All contract and roster info as of May 22nd, 2023, taken from spotrac.com . All opinions are my own. Feel free to return later on and tell me what an idiot I am, or do so now. Teams listed in alphabetical order.
Edit: forgot to add that all punting grades are from PFF
Arizona Cardinals
Punters: Matt Haack, Nolan Cooney
Expected 2023 Week 1 Starter: Matt Haack
Haack has veteran experience and is an average warm weather punter. He struggled in Buffalo but found relative success in Miami and Indianapolis. He should get plenty of work this season for the Cards.
Atlanta Falcons
Punters: Bradley Pinion*
Pinion began last year with arguably the best opening 5 games a punter has had in the past decade and finished as a top-5 graded punter. He is locked in here.
Baltimore Ravens
Punters: Jordan Stout*
A 2022 4th rounder, Stout will need to make major improvements to his consistency from punt to punt for the Ravens to not bring in competition for him next season after a less-than-stellar rookie season.
Buffalo Bills
Punters: Sam Martin*
Martin got a new deal after a solid first season in Buffalo. He became an excellent consolation for Buffalo after Denver cut him during the 53-man trim and Matt Araiza was let go due to accusations of sexual assault. Martin was consistently average in all weather, all an offense like the Bills need.
Carolina Panthers
Punters: Johnny Hekker*
The greatest to ever do it, Hekker returns for his 12th season. After a poor end to 2020 and similar 2021 season, the All-Pro was let go from the Rams but returned to the Hekker of old last year. The 6th highest graded punter of 2022, Hekker showed that his command over the ball was back.
Chicago Bears
Punters: Ryan Anderson, Trenton Gill*
Expected Week 1 Starter: Trenton Gill
Gill’s rookie year was nothing spectacular as he hovered around replacement level for much of 2022. Chicago bringing in competition for the 2022 7th rounder was to be expected, and Gill should win the job over Anderson who has been a practice squad player, but he will need to improve this year, or the Bears will likely have more serious competition next year.
Cincinnati Bengals
Punters: Drue Chrisman,* Brad Robbins**
Expected Week 1 Starter: Brad Robbins
Chrisman took over after longtime Bengal Kevin Huber’s career ended with a whimper and mid-season demotion. Chrisman never took advantage and was a liability by season’s end, especially in the playoff loss to Kansas City. His final punt of that game likely sealed his fate. Robbins was a 6th rounder a month ago and should win this by default, sans injury.
Cleveland Browns
Punters: Corey Bojorquez,* Joseph Charlton
Expected Week 1 Starter: Corey Bojo
Bojorquez beat out Charlton for the job last offseason and the Browns brought him back for another camp battle. Charlton has mostly been an injury fill in and practice squad player, seeing limited time with poor performance a few years back in Carolina while Bojo is consistently in the upper echelon of NFL punters for punting, having arguably the strongest leg. Bojorquez being a complete liability in the holding game and inexplicable and untimely mishits keep teams constantly looking for something more stable, but he should have this job in 2023.
Dallas Cowboys
Punters: Bryan Anger*
Anger will always be the answer to the trivia question “who did the Jacksonville Jaguars select with the pick just before Russel Wilson?” and I find that unfortunate because Anger has been a very good punter throughout his career. Last year, he graded out top-10 after a top-2 finish in 2021.
Denver Broncos
Punters: Riley Dixon
Dixon came over in free agency from the Rams after an excellent season in LA as one of the most consistent punters from week-to-week. He should give the Bronco punt unit a boost that was needed after a milquetoast season from Corliss Waitman. One cause for concern is that Dixon has struggled in the cold in the past (part of why he was cut from NYG). Additionally, a fantastic holder.
Detroit Lions
Punters: Jack Fox*
Fox got a new deal last year but could be a cap casualty soon if he does not turn things around. One of the worst punters in 2022, Fox has been on a downhill slide after a great first year in Detroit in 2020. His game in Chicago midseason was brutal and he finished the year poorly. He must be better in 2023.
Green Bay Packers
Punters: Pat O’Donnell,* Daniel Whelan
Expected Week 1 Starter: Daniel Whelan
A longtime Bear, O’Donnell came over last off-season after Corey Bojorquez melted down to end 2021 in all phases. O’Donnell helped fix the kicking game and was a replacement-level punter in 2022 but Green Bay could save over one million in 2022 cap by cutting him. Whelan on the other hand, was the 2023 XFL’s top graded punter and the strongest leg the league could offer. I expect him to start for the Pack.
Houston Texans
Punters: Cameron Johnston*
Great Value Bill Burr has been in Houston for a few years now and has been consistently average. The Aussie has a wide range of punts in his quiver and is well liked in Houston.
Indianapolis Colts
Punters: Rigoberto Sanchez***
Sanchez’s torn Achilles last season was one of the most heartbreaking injuries of the 2022 season. A top-5 graded punter in 2021, Sanchez was really coming into his own. If he can return to form, this Colts punting unit should see a boost after the departure of Matt Haack, and quite often.
Jacksonville Jaguars
Punters: Logan Cooke*
Cooke is arguably the 2nd best punter over the past 3 seasons. Jacksonville loves him and so do I. If he stays at current form, he will be in Jax for years to come. Lock him in.
Kansas City Chiefs
Punters: Tommy Townsend*
Yes, that is his real name. Townsend exploded last year after a disastrous 2021 campaign. What will he be this year? Let’s hope he builds off 2022. His conference championship performance against the Bengals played a pivotal role in the Chiefs heading to the Super Bowl and his all-pro was well earned, coming in as the top graded punter in 2022.
Las Vegas Raiders
Punters: AJ Cole*
Cole does something few other players can: he brings the AFC West together. Elite in all phases of his game, every Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, and Bronco’s fan enjoys seeing him on the field. He has been consistently elite for multiple seasons now and is a treat to watch. Cole has been, without a doubt, the best punter in the NFL over the past few seasons and the gap is notable. I will be waxing poetic about him come August, more so than now.
Los Angeles Chargers
Punters: JK Scott*
There may not be a more polarizing player than Scott. Packer fans wanted him ran out of town after 2020 and Charger fans love him following a few seasons of Ty Long. It’s amazing what perspective can do. Scott’s game is all hangtime and this bodes well in the warm LA conditions (not so much in GB).
Los Angeles Rams
Punters: Ethan Evans
A 7th round pick out of Wingate, Evans immediately became the default punter for the Rams, considering they did not have a specialist on the roster prior. I know little about Evans, so I’ll be back with more on him this preseason.
Miami Dolphins
Punters: Jake Bailey, Michael Turk**
Expected Week 1 Starter: Michael Turk
Jake Bailey was a worthy All-Pro selection in 2020, declined to league average in 2021, and was mercifully placed on IR midway through last season after a dreadful 9 games for the Patriots. Turk comes to Miami after going undrafted in both 2020 and 2023 but with a booming leg. If Bill Belichick has given up hope that Bailey can return to form, I won’t hold out either.
Minnesota Vikings
Punters: Ryan Wright*
Wright went undrafted before winning the punting job over veteran Jordan Berry in the final cuts last year. Early on, he struggled mightily with outkicking his coverage and blatant mishits but cleaned this up as it went along, really coming on strong down the final stretch of the season. He has the potential to be a very good punter if he continues to improve and a beacon of hope for all of us with dad bods. Rooting for Sir Thiccness.
New England Patriots
Punters: Bryce Baringer,** Corliss Waitman
Expected Week 1 Starter: Bryce Baringer
The Patriots took Baringer in the 6th round out of Michigan State. Arguably the draft’s top punter Baringer will most assuredly win the job over the veteran stop-gap Corliss Waitman.
New Orleans Saints
Punters: Blake Gillikin,* Lou Hedley
Expected Week 1 Starter: Blake Gillikin
Gil has been a reliable, slightly above-average punter for the Saints since replacing the great Thomas Morstead. Hedley is one of the better Aussies to come around in quite a while, despite going undrafted out of Miami. I am going with Gilikin here, but the gap is small. Gil is on just a one-year deal and the Saints can cut him. This is a true camp battle.
New York Giants
Punters: Jamie Gillan*
After a poor, party-filled run that led to his midseason Cleveland dismissal in 2021, Gillan reset quite well for the Giants last year. Forget his dropped punt against Philly, he was above average for most of the season. One cause for concern with Gil is the same concern he had in Cleveland: he began to fade as the year went on. Gil was excellent for the first half of the 2019 Browns before taking a step back to end the season and in 2020. After a poor finish to 2022, I hope he changes the narrative this go around.
New York Jets
Punters: Thomas Morstead
After spending time with the Jets in 2021, the ageless wonder returns to New York after a very good season with the rival Fins. One of the best punters of the 2010s, Morstead is still an above average punter and was top-10 graded in 2022.
Philadelphia Eagles
Punters: Ty Zentner,** Arryn Siposs*
Expected Week 1 Starter: Ty Zentner
Siposs finished 2021 with a whimper after a hot start. He was one of the worst graded punters of 2022 before his injury, and his disastrous mishit punt in Super Bowl 57 was one of the defining moments that led to a Chiefs W. I currently have little to add on Zentner, a UDFA out of Kansas State, outside of the fact he is not Siposs.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Punters: Pressley Harvin III,* Braden Mann
Expected Week 1 Starter: Braden Mann
Mann comes to Pittsburgh after being waived by the Jets, where he was drafted to in the 6th round of the 2020 draft. Mann was the 4th highest graded punter of 2022, so why did the Jets cut him? The answer is clear: he has way too many mishits at the worst times. He is fantastic when on, but his shanks are never far away as last year’s season opener vs Baltimore showed. He is one of the best punting prospects of the last decade and has had a respectable career but must become more consistent. Meanwhile, Harvin has been largely average in two years in Pittsburgh. He should catch on somewhere else as injuries occur.
San Francisco 49ers
Punters: Mitch Wishnowsky*
In four seasons in Santa Clara, Wishnowsky has logged 2 great years and 2 largely replacement level years. Last year Wish graded as a top-10 punter and that stemmed from an improvement in his directional game. On top of that, his leg Is incredible. He almost never uses a traditional drop and yet his hang never suffers. Look for Wish to hang around the league with his monster leg for years to come.
Seattle Seahawks
Punters: Michael Dickson*
Dickson has earned himself a bit of a leash after an incredible start to his career but that may be getting shorter after a poor 2022 season. His 2021 start was below-average, but he finished with a return to his former self down the stretch. That never came in 2022. If Big Balls has another poor year, he could be a cap casualty in 2024.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Punters: Jake Camarda*
Camarda was the clear-cut top punter from the 2022 NFL draft in his rookie year and finished as a top-10 graded punter. He had a magical midseason stretch but did struggle in cold weather games down the stretch. Considering he plays in Tampa; this is of less concern. Camarda improved mightily from the preseason, especially in his placement. While his ceiling is lower than many of his draft counterparts, his floor is high, and he should have a job for the foreseeable future with the Bucs. Lastly, check out his punt against the Panthers in Week 17. It literally saved their season. https://www.reddit.com/nfl/comments/102h7mi/highlight_all22_and_broadcast_film_of_jake/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 ((hyperlink broke))
Tennessee Titans
Punters: Ryan Stonehouse*
Titans’ fans will be angry after the blurb on Camarda as they were at me for most of the season. I have talked extensively about issues I have had with Stonehouse’s game, and I don’t want to do that here. I am excited to see what he looks like. Stonehouse has a legitimate missile for a leg and if that can be reeled in, he could be one of the best punters of this generation. I am very curious to see what another offseason of work can do for him and hope to be writing some rosier breakdowns on him this season.
Washington Commanders
Punters: Tress Way*
Don’t worry Commander fans, I’ll share this in your sub so no one else must. I am fully prepared for oblivion downvotes. Anyways.
Tress Way is one of the better punters of the last decade but is coming off a down year where he faded down the stretch. His outkicks increased and hangtime decreased. This comes after a poor ending to 2021 as well. The Commanders don’t seem fazed as they have not brough in competition, but he is due 3.75 million in 2024 and the Commanders could save 3.1 million by cutting him then. If he does not show improvement, the fan favorite will likely be on the way out.
*Denotes 2022 starter for current team
**Denotes rookie
***Denotes spent 2022 on IR for current team
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Edit: forgot to add that all punting grades are from PFF
Arizona Cardinals
Punters: Matt Haack, Nolan Cooney
Expected 2023 Week 1 Starter: Matt Haack
Haack has veteran experience and is an average warm weather punter. He struggled in Buffalo but found relative success in Miami and Indianapolis. He should get plenty of work this season for the Cards.
Atlanta Falcons
Punters: Bradley Pinion*
Pinion began last year with arguably the best opening 5 games a punter has had in the past decade and finished as a top-5 graded punter. He is locked in here.
Baltimore Ravens
Punters: Jordan Stout*
A 2022 4th rounder, Stout will need to make major improvements to his consistency from punt to punt for the Ravens to not bring in competition for him next season after a less-than-stellar rookie season.
Buffalo Bills
Punters: Sam Martin*
Martin got a new deal after a solid first season in Buffalo. He became an excellent consolation for Buffalo after Denver cut him during the 53-man trim and Matt Araiza was let go due to accusations of sexual assault. Martin was consistently average in all weather, all an offense like the Bills need.
Carolina Panthers
Punters: Johnny Hekker*
The greatest to ever do it, Hekker returns for his 12th season. After a poor end to 2020 and similar 2021 season, the All-Pro was let go from the Rams but returned to the Hekker of old last year. The 6th highest graded punter of 2022, Hekker showed that his command over the ball was back.
Chicago Bears
Punters: Ryan Anderson, Trenton Gill*
Expected Week 1 Starter: Trenton Gill
Gill’s rookie year was nothing spectacular as he hovered around replacement level for much of 2022. Chicago bringing in competition for the 2022 7th rounder was to be expected, and Gill should win the job over Anderson who has been a practice squad player, but he will need to improve this year, or the Bears will likely have more serious competition next year.
Cincinnati Bengals
Punters: Drue Chrisman,* Brad Robbins**
Expected Week 1 Starter: Brad Robbins
Chrisman took over after longtime Bengal Kevin Huber’s career ended with a whimper and mid-season demotion. Chrisman never took advantage and was a liability by season’s end, especially in the playoff loss to Kansas City. His final punt of that game likely sealed his fate. Robbins was a 6th rounder a month ago and should win this by default, sans injury.
Cleveland Browns
Punters: Corey Bojorquez,* Joseph Charlton
Expected Week 1 Starter: Corey Bojo
Bojorquez beat out Charlton for the job last offseason and the Browns brought him back for another camp battle. Charlton has mostly been an injury fill in and practice squad player, seeing limited time with poor performance a few years back in Carolina while Bojo is consistently in the upper echelon of NFL punters for punting, having arguably the strongest leg. Bojorquez being a complete liability in the holding game and inexplicable and untimely mishits keep teams constantly looking for something more stable, but he should have this job in 2023.
Dallas Cowboys
Punters: Bryan Anger*
Anger will always be the answer to the trivia question “who did the Jacksonville Jaguars select with the pick just before Russel Wilson?” and I find that unfortunate because Anger has been a very good punter throughout his career. Last year, he graded out top-10 after a top-2 finish in 2021.
Denver Broncos
Punters: Riley Dixon
Dixon came over in free agency from the Rams after an excellent season in LA as one of the most consistent punters from week-to-week. He should give the Bronco punt unit a boost that was needed after a milquetoast season from Corliss Waitman. One cause for concern is that Dixon has struggled in the cold in the past (part of why he was cut from NYG). Additionally, a fantastic holder.
Detroit Lions
Punters: Jack Fox*
Fox got a new deal last year but could be a cap casualty soon if he does not turn things around. One of the worst punters in 2022, Fox has been on a downhill slide after a great first year in Detroit in 2020. His game in Chicago midseason was brutal and he finished the year poorly. He must be better in 2023.
Green Bay Packers
Punters: Pat O’Donnell,* Daniel Whelan
Expected Week 1 Starter: Daniel Whelan
A longtime Bear, O’Donnell came over last off-season after Corey Bojorquez melted down to end 2021 in all phases. O’Donnell helped fix the kicking game and was a replacement-level punter in 2022 but Green Bay could save over one million in 2022 cap by cutting him. Whelan on the other hand, was the 2023 XFL’s top graded punter and the strongest leg the league could offer. I expect him to start for the Pack.
Houston Texans
Punters: Cameron Johnston*
Great Value Bill Burr has been in Houston for a few years now and has been consistently average. The Aussie has a wide range of punts in his quiver and is well liked in Houston.
Indianapolis Colts
Punters: Rigoberto Sanchez***
Sanchez’s torn Achilles last season was one of the most heartbreaking injuries of the 2022 season. A top-5 graded punter in 2021, Sanchez was really coming into his own. If he can return to form, this Colts punting unit should see a boost after the departure of Matt Haack, and quite often.
Jacksonville Jaguars
Punters: Logan Cooke*
Cooke is arguably the 2nd best punter over the past 3 seasons. Jacksonville loves him and so do I. If he stays at current form, he will be in Jax for years to come. Lock him in.
Kansas City Chiefs
Punters: Tommy Townsend*
Yes, that is his real name. Townsend exploded last year after a disastrous 2021 campaign. What will he be this year? Let’s hope he builds off 2022. His conference championship performance against the Bengals played a pivotal role in the Chiefs heading to the Super Bowl and his all-pro was well earned, coming in as the top graded punter in 2022.
Las Vegas Raiders
Punters: AJ Cole*
Cole does something few other players can: he brings the AFC West together. Elite in all phases of his game, every Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, and Bronco’s fan enjoys seeing him on the field. He has been consistently elite for multiple seasons now and is a treat to watch. Cole has been, without a doubt, the best punter in the NFL over the past few seasons and the gap is notable. I will be waxing poetic about him come August, more so than now.
Los Angeles Chargers
Punters: JK Scott*
There may not be a more polarizing player than Scott. Packer fans wanted him ran out of town after 2020 and Charger fans love him following a few seasons of Ty Long. It’s amazing what perspective can do. Scott’s game is all hangtime and this bodes well in the warm LA conditions (not so much in GB).
Los Angeles Rams
Punters: Ethan Evans
A 7th round pick out of Wingate, Evans immediately became the default punter for the Rams, considering they did not have a specialist on the roster prior. I know little about Evans, so I’ll be back with more on him this preseason.
Miami Dolphins
Punters: Jake Bailey, Michael Turk**
Expected Week 1 Starter: Michael Turk
Jake Bailey was a worthy All-Pro selection in 2020, declined to league average in 2021, and was mercifully placed on IR midway through last season after a dreadful 9 games for the Patriots. Turk comes to Miami after going undrafted in both 2020 and 2023 but with a booming leg. If Bill Belichick has given up hope that Bailey can return to form, I won’t hold out either.
Minnesota Vikings
Punters: Ryan Wright*
Wright went undrafted before winning the punting job over veteran Jordan Berry in the final cuts last year. Early on, he struggled mightily with outkicking his coverage and blatant mishits but cleaned this up as it went along, really coming on strong down the final stretch of the season. He has the potential to be a very good punter if he continues to improve and a beacon of hope for all of us with dad bods. Rooting for Sir Thiccness.
New England Patriots
Punters: Bryce Baringer,** Corliss Waitman
Expected Week 1 Starter: Bryce Baringer
The Patriots took Baringer in the 6th round out of Michigan State. Arguably the draft’s top punter Baringer will most assuredly win the job over the veteran stop-gap Corliss Waitman.
New Orleans Saints
Punters: Blake Gillikin,* Lou Hedley
Expected Week 1 Starter: Blake Gillikin
Gil has been a reliable, slightly above-average punter for the Saints since replacing the great Thomas Morstead. Hedley is one of the better Aussies to come around in quite a while, despite going undrafted out of Miami. I am going with Gilikin here, but the gap is small. Gil is on just a one-year deal and the Saints can cut him. This is a true camp battle.
New York Giants
Punters: Jamie Gillan*
After a poor, party-filled run that led to his midseason Cleveland dismissal in 2021, Gillan reset quite well for the Giants last year. Forget his dropped punt against Philly, he was above average for most of the season. One cause for concern with Gil is the same concern he had in Cleveland: he began to fade as the year went on. Gil was excellent for the first half of the 2019 Browns before taking a step back to end the season and in 2020. After a poor finish to 2022, I hope he changes the narrative this go around.
New York Jets
Punters: Thomas Morstead
After spending time with the Jets in 2021, the ageless wonder returns to New York after a very good season with the rival Fins. One of the best punters of the 2010s, Morstead is still an above average punter and was top-10 graded in 2022.
Philadelphia Eagles
Punters: Ty Zentner,** Arryn Siposs*
Expected Week 1 Starter: Ty Zentner
Siposs finished 2021 with a whimper after a hot start. He was one of the worst graded punters of 2022 before his injury, and his disastrous mishit punt in Super Bowl 57 was one of the defining moments that led to a Chiefs W. I currently have little to add on Zentner, a UDFA out of Kansas State, outside of the fact he is not Siposs.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Punters: Pressley Harvin III,* Braden Mann
Expected Week 1 Starter: Braden Mann
Mann comes to Pittsburgh after being waived by the Jets, where he was drafted to in the 6th round of the 2020 draft. Mann was the 4th highest graded punter of 2022, so why did the Jets cut him? The answer is clear: he has way too many mishits at the worst times. He is fantastic when on, but his shanks are never far away as last year’s season opener vs Baltimore showed. He is one of the best punting prospects of the last decade and has had a respectable career but must become more consistent. Meanwhile, Harvin has been largely average in two years in Pittsburgh. He should catch on somewhere else as injuries occur.
San Francisco 49ers
Punters: Mitch Wishnowsky*
In four seasons in Santa Clara, Wishnowsky has logged 2 great years and 2 largely replacement level years. Last year Wish graded as a top-10 punter and that stemmed from an improvement in his directional game. On top of that, his leg Is incredible. He almost never uses a traditional drop and yet his hang never suffers. Look for Wish to hang around the league with his monster leg for years to come.
Seattle Seahawks
Punters: Michael Dickson*
Dickson has earned himself a bit of a leash after an incredible start to his career but that may be getting shorter after a poor 2022 season. His 2021 start was below-average, but he finished with a return to his former self down the stretch. That never came in 2022. If Big Balls has another poor year, he could be a cap casualty in 2024.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Punters: Jake Camarda*
Camarda was the clear-cut top punter from the 2022 NFL draft in his rookie year and finished as a top-10 graded punter. He had a magical midseason stretch but did struggle in cold weather games down the stretch. Considering he plays in Tampa; this is of less concern. Camarda improved mightily from the preseason, especially in his placement. While his ceiling is lower than many of his draft counterparts, his floor is high, and he should have a job for the foreseeable future with the Bucs. Lastly, check out his punt against the Panthers in Week 17. It literally saved their season. https://www.reddit.com/nfl/comments/102h7mi/highlight_all22_and_broadcast_film_of_jake/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 ((hyperlink broke))
Tennessee Titans
Punters: Ryan Stonehouse*
Titans’ fans will be angry after the blurb on Camarda as they were at me for most of the season. I have talked extensively about issues I have had with Stonehouse’s game, and I don’t want to do that here. I am excited to see what he looks like. Stonehouse has a legitimate missile for a leg and if that can be reeled in, he could be one of the best punters of this generation. I am very curious to see what another offseason of work can do for him and hope to be writing some rosier breakdowns on him this season.
Washington Commanders
Punters: Tress Way*
Don’t worry Commander fans, I’ll share this in your sub so no one else must. I am fully prepared for oblivion downvotes. Anyways.
Tress Way is one of the better punters of the last decade but is coming off a down year where he faded down the stretch. His outkicks increased and hangtime decreased. This comes after a poor ending to 2021 as well. The Commanders don’t seem fazed as they have not brough in competition, but he is due 3.75 million in 2024 and the Commanders could save 3.1 million by cutting him then. If he does not show improvement, the fan favorite will likely be on the way out.
*Denotes 2022 starter for current team
**Denotes rookie
***Denotes spent 2022 on IR for current team
2023.05.21 22:51 Sihvel Let's get wild: Should the Spurs sign James Harden?
A guard with great court vision could be great for Wemby's development and help him ease into the NBA. Currently, the San Antonio Spurs are projected to have about $43.5M in cap space as per SpotRac's cap tracker. Could you see a potential James Harden signing as a positive for the Spurs?
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2023.05.21 20:51 Hyperbolic-Chamber D’LO Ice In His Veins Has Fleeced The NBA and been tossed around the league for his draft position value as trade filler across 3 teams already and has been traded a total of 4 times now despite being in the league for 8 years only
DLO was drafted as the second pick by the lakers in the 2015 nba draft
He was traded from the lakers after “breaking the code” to the nets in 2017 offseason
On JUL 7 2019: he was sign and traded to Golden State (GSW) from Brooklyn (BKN) with Shabazz Napier and Treveon Graham for Kevin Durant and 2020 1st round pick [top-20 protected, conveys to 2025 second-round pick] where he signed a 4 year $117 million maximum contract with Brooklyn (BKN) as part of a Sign-and-Trade with Golden State (GSW)
On FEB 6 2020: He was traded to Minnesota (MIN) from Golden State (GSW) with Omari Spellman and Jacob Evans for Andrew Wiggins, 2021 1st round pick [top-3 protected, unprotected 2022 1st if not conveyed] and 2021 2nd round pick
On FEB 9 2023: He was traded to Los Angeles (LAL) from Minnesota (MIN) as part of a 3-team trade: Los Angeles (LAL) traded Russell Westbrook, 2027 1st round pick, Juan Toscano-Anderson and Damian Jones to Utah (UTA); Utah (UTA) traded Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Los Angeles (LAL); Utah (UTA) traded Mike Conley, 2024 2nd round pick, 2025 2nd round pick, 2026 2nd round pick and Nickeil Alexander-Walker to Minnesota (MIN) as an attempts to keep Russell Westbrooks salary slot alive for the 2023 offseason
Will D’LO continue fleecing the NBA by undeservingly signing a near max contract so the lakers can pump and dump him with additional assets for a much needed upgrade or how will this saga end of teams using his draft position to navigate the cap space and attach him as filler in trades?
Source: Spotrac
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He was traded from the lakers after “breaking the code” to the nets in 2017 offseason
On JUL 7 2019: he was sign and traded to Golden State (GSW) from Brooklyn (BKN) with Shabazz Napier and Treveon Graham for Kevin Durant and 2020 1st round pick [top-20 protected, conveys to 2025 second-round pick] where he signed a 4 year $117 million maximum contract with Brooklyn (BKN) as part of a Sign-and-Trade with Golden State (GSW)
On FEB 6 2020: He was traded to Minnesota (MIN) from Golden State (GSW) with Omari Spellman and Jacob Evans for Andrew Wiggins, 2021 1st round pick [top-3 protected, unprotected 2022 1st if not conveyed] and 2021 2nd round pick
On FEB 9 2023: He was traded to Los Angeles (LAL) from Minnesota (MIN) as part of a 3-team trade: Los Angeles (LAL) traded Russell Westbrook, 2027 1st round pick, Juan Toscano-Anderson and Damian Jones to Utah (UTA); Utah (UTA) traded Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Los Angeles (LAL); Utah (UTA) traded Mike Conley, 2024 2nd round pick, 2025 2nd round pick, 2026 2nd round pick and Nickeil Alexander-Walker to Minnesota (MIN) as an attempts to keep Russell Westbrooks salary slot alive for the 2023 offseason
Will D’LO continue fleecing the NBA by undeservingly signing a near max contract so the lakers can pump and dump him with additional assets for a much needed upgrade or how will this saga end of teams using his draft position to navigate the cap space and attach him as filler in trades?
Source: Spotrac
2023.05.19 02:52 Real_Double_13 🥲😮💨
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