Quickly, do the wheels on the bus go round and round!? DO THEY!? | I will end you. |
How often does the screeching of the children make you think of driving off a cliff or into oncoming traffic? | When I first started, it was every single day. However, now that I'm more comfortable being captain of the ship, I lay down the law quickly and early on so as to make sure there's no screaming on my bus. Tears were shed, but everyone was better for it. |
I always enjoyed my bus driver. She was such an awesome lady who would give up candy on Halloween, before Christmas break, and on the last day of school. And then I had fun and got to meet some bus drivers on marching band trips. You guys are awesome people. | We have a lot of awesome drivers and some real sour pusses. I'm glad you had a good one! |
Ever had to drive a bunch of marching band kids/other band kids? | I have done marching band! They are typically one of the most fun groups to have. Everybody always seems cheerful and happy to be there! |
Ever had a kid or an incident that sticks in your mind? | I've lucked out and avoided any bad incidents. So the things that stick with my are generally good. Its a great feeling when elementary children want you to sign their yearbooks at the end of the year. My best memory so far was from this past school year when I had 3 6th grade girls cry on the last day because I wouldn't be their driver anymore. I got a little teary eyed when they said that. |
What's your favorite thing about your job? | My favorite thing is realizing how BIG of an impact I can have a child's life when I only seem them for MAYBE an hour a day. I've had elementary schoolers tell me they like me more than their teachers. I've had high schoolers come to me for advice on problems in their social lives. That feeling is unbeatable for me. |
What authority does the driver have to step in situations like this? What would you have done and how much trouble would you get in for belting the hell out of those kids? | I would be fired indefinitely for laying my hands on any student unless drastic measures called for it. (We're taught to never use physical force but F that if someone is in danger). That video is a great example of how kids behave when they either have no discipline or when their parents aren't around (so still a lack of discipline). The only authority I really have as a driver to write up an incident report which gets handed to the principle and to my supervisors. There are also cameras (with sound!) on most buses that would be used as evidence. If that occurred and I was still at the school, I would call on the radio to dispatch to have the principle sent out to take the child off the bus and the report would still be written. That goes in the child's permanent file. |
Hmm, well how bout this: what if, in that same scenario, I came on the bus and belted those little shits like 15h century heretics? Would you turn me in or let it slide? | Put it to you this way, if you were to hide in the bushes about 100ft from their bus stop and waiting to do that once the bus was out of sight I wouldn't know and then everybody would sleep at night. |
Awww. Still using the good ole "permanent file" tactic! | Link to i.imgur.com |
I had a bus driver that threatened to take all the kids back to school if there was an idiot acting up. The peer pressure & threat of severe beating by your classmates pretty much kept us all in check. Edit* i to an o. | I've had rowdy groups of kids that I've used that threat on before. And it works quite well. Also, I'm well within my power to just pull the bus over onto the side of the road and wait until every has calmed down. |
Except that kid. | Karma. |
What do you do during field trips when the kids are off on the trip? And also if you could choose to have a different job would you take it and what would you choose? | One of the most asked questions when people find out my profession! |
| It depends on the trip. If its a sports trip, I get into the games for free (though I always pay because it helps out the program) and I sit and watch the game. Athletes really respect you if you actually cheer them on. |
| Some trips to parks and such, I'll often get invited to walk around with the class. Sometimes I just take a nap on the bus. |
| I absolutely love my job, however I'm currently in school pursuing a degree in the IT field, so in a few years time I'll be leaving bus driving land and it will certainly be hard but the pay increase will be nice! |
Lucky! In our district, drivers didn't get to go into the sports games and such. If it was a two-way charter, they usually killed time somewhere else, if they didn't need to stay on site. Otherwise one-way charters meant you just go back to base. | We have things similar. There's normal field trips, where you're paid straight from the time you get to the bus until whenever you bring the kids back and park. |
| Then there's "split trips" (which are annoying as shit). For these, you get paid from the time you get to the bus and drop the kids off then park. Then you don't get paid until you pick the kids up to return to their school. They're getting rarer but they still suck. |
Have you ever had a fight break out on the bus? If so, what was the roughest one? | Luckily there's never been one on any of my routes. However, I know of fights that have had teenagers heads bashed into (and subsequently breaking) a window. |
What is the most bizarre thing that a kid has done on the bus? | One of my kindergartners from the most recent school year licked the seats of the bus. Every. Single. Day. |
Is it true that you're only cool if you pee your pants? | Absolutely! |
If you could change one thing about your job, what would it be? | Guarantee of an air conditioned bus. You have to have a few years of seniority to get a guaranteed air conditioned bus as your assigned unit. |
| For a few months of the year its fine to not have it. But with wonderful Virginia "springs" and summers. The last 3 months of school can be absolute sweaty hell. |
Air conditioned school buses exist? | My county is slowly but surely phasing out all non air conditioned buses. But we also have a budget many times larger than most county school systems. |
Do those without AC at least have driver fans? I used to drive routes for my university and even if we had an old bus, they all had fans. | Yes, the old buses have fans. Whether or not they are actually able to point at the driver is a different story. They're generally used as defoggers for the front windows. |
Are you one of the cool bus drivers? Do you have a favorite passenger- like the ones who cause trouble, but you let it slide cause he's a cool motherfucker? | I like to think I'm a cool bus driver. I mean, what's cooler than a 23 year old bearded driver wearing bad ass Oakleys? |
| I've had a few high schoolers who were loud and would cuss and talk about inappropriate subjects but I'm always cool with it. I don't tolerate bullying, violence, harassment, or drug use. Everything else within reason is cool in my books. Hell, half the shit they talk about is hilarious and very nostalgic for me. |
I just imagined all the cool ass bus drivers I used to have. The younger ones were definitely lax as all get-up. And I'm all for eavesdropping...now I'm considering being a bus driver haha, cheers! | There are worse jobs for less money. That's my motto on bad days. |
Do seniors get picks over what routes they get to do, or each year you get assained a route for the rest of the year? | At the end of every school year you get to pick your route. The order in which you pick is by seniority. So more senior drivers first then they work down. |
Do you do other runs for the buss company other then schools? | The buses are owned and operated by Fairfax County Public Schools so we use the buses solely for FCPS business. |
What do you do over the summer? | There is summer school but the number of routes are very limited. There are also a good number of field trips that go on with the different summer programs at the schools. Again, its generally assigned by seniority. However, lots of senior drivers decline summer work for vacation. This summer I've made myself available if they need me, but for the most part I'm just chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool. |
If you work for the Public Schools, How do you get paid? (hourly, how many routes, etc.) and also, do you get pad over the summer? (I believe most teachers do, so I'm curious as to if you also do.) | Hey, its Friday night. I'm enjoying some good a/c and a few beers. And the Steam Summer Sale is disappointing me so you guys have my full attention! All bus drivers in my county are hourly. The more routes you have the more hours you'll get. I've been very lucky to always average at least 40 hours a week. But that's because I never turn down a route. I don't get paid over the summer. If you enroll with a local county bank called Apple Federal Credit Union, they will take a little out of each pay check during the year then give you that money during the summer months. Rather than opening yet another bank account, I just saved my money wherever I could during the year so that my bank account could be padded during the summer. I've had a few field trips this summer so that's put some extra money in my wallet. There are summer school routes also, but they are very limited and the senior drivers get first pick of those. |
Shootin some b ball? | Only ever outside of the school. |
How do they work the routes out so as to give full time hours to bus drivers? Surely everyone is trying to get too/from school at the same time of day, or do kids get dropped/picked up hours before/after school ends? | Each route has its own amount of hours attached to it. The routes that pull neighborhoods farther from the school build up the most hours. Since the older drivers get first pick, and they know what routes are long and short, they basically pick their hours. |
| I believe we're only guaranteed 30 hours a week, but that amount seems to change every year. |
Worst situation with an annoying or rude child? | This one 4th grader on my bus last school year would constantly play Minecraft on his iPad (I drove in a very affluent area). He would always be yelling "CREEPERS" and other random Minecraft nonsense first thing in the morning and every afternoon. |
| He would also constantly leave his violin on the bus and he would harass this 6th grade girl. He would curse and call people "assholes" and "bastards" and he never seemed to remember that those were curse words. He was very very weird and I wouldn't be surprised if he had some social disorder. |
Careful, you might not want to go against people with social disorders on reddit... it's like their nest. | Dem aspergers. |
Ja, überall. Es ist verrückt. | Link to i.imgur.com |
Ass Burgers droool | Link to i.imgur.com |
How do you pick up a puke? | Slowly with low quality paper towels. Making sure you suffer and are on the edge of creating your own puke the whole time. |
Try kitty litter next time. It soaks up the liquid then you can easily sweep it up. It also smells better than puke. | Man, now I gotta carry kitty litter on my bus? You people are breaking my balls here! |
How many pukes have you had to pick up? | 3 pukes. Every single incident haunts you because its never a little. Its always a lot. |
Excellent beard. Are you on first name basis any kids? | I insist that my kids call me Mr. Zak. That way they aren't cursing when they mess up my last name and we can seem friendly while at the same time keeping my "Mr" title for the respect factor. I won't lie, I can go the whole year without knowing some kid's names but oh well. |
Bus drivers don't take attendance anymore? | We're supposed to keep track of our kindergartners and special needs children since they're supposed to be met at their stop. |
Obviously not down with drinking and driving, but when you have time off, what is your favorite beer? | That's a tough one. Favorite beer that's at "most" bars is probably Fat Tire. If they don't have that I go with the regular Guinness or a Sam Adams. |
| My FAVORITE brewery however is Flying Dog. I love their coffee stout with desserts. Their Underdog Atlantic Lager is my chill out beer. |
Have you ever driven a tank? | I drive them all the time in Battlefield 3! |
PC, PS3, or Xbox? | PC master race. |
Username? | EYOBISH. |
Are you strict about random kids going to someone else's house without a bus pass? | For middle school and high school I really don't care. I'm supposed to but I figure those kids are grown enough to handle their business. |
| For elementary school I'm incredibly strict about it. The WORST feeling in the world would be to lose a little kid. Not know who they were or what stop they got off at. This is especially important for children getting off at a stop with a lot of kids. |
Yeah I know what ya mean. I'm a junior in hs and I think it's a rediculous thing kinda that ya need a pass to go somewhere for some drivers. The laws the law though. | Put it to you this way, that rule is there because of something that happened in the past. Like most rules. |
| When you allow totally random kids on the bus, you don't know the reason they're there. Kids get jumped on/off the bus all the time. Certain parents may not want Jack to ride home to Cindy's house because he's a bad influence on her or vice versa. |
| The point of the notes is to take the county's liability out of the equation. School systems are prime targets for lawsuits. |
What time do you have to wake up? I thought getting up at 530 to catch my 600 bus sucked. | I wake up at 4:30am and I'm out the door on my way to my bus around 4:45am. Its rough especially when I don't get home until 6 or 6:30pm some nights. But you get used to it. I live in Lorton and parked my bus last year at Langley high school so its about a 35 minute commute in the morning if I'm not dragging ass. |
EDIT: I saw that you worked for FCPS, I happen to go there (area 2/3 i think) | What school do you go to? If you don't mind me asking of course! |
EDIT2: Does the camera front and center actually do anything? Can it be viewed in real time? | Response to your 2nd edit: 99% of the time its recording to a tape located in a box under one of the seats! It isn't viewed in real time. It records for a few days whenever the bus is turned on then it records over itself. Basically if there's a reported incident the supervisor comes as soon as possible to take the tape out to see what happened. |
Hot damn that's early. I'm not sure how to disguise this but I went to CHS and then went to FX for Academy. | The radio is pretty standard. We have the typical 10-codes: 10-4 mean you understand, 10-8 means en route, 10-9 means take the mic out of your ass I couldn't understand you. Then there are signals like a Signal 31 means there's no parents to meet the kindergartner or special needs kid because that parent is an asshole. |
Also! When I was a patrol in elementary school there was a button on the radio that we'd press (I think it was the triangularly shaped one to the far right) if the driver passed out and we were in the middle of nowhere. The dispatcher on the other side would say "Confirm or deny" or something of the sort. Are there any other interesting things about the radio? Is it encrypted? What sorts of jargon is used? | There's also a different channel for each "area" or cluster of high schools. Like Centreville would be Area 3, so there's an Area 3 transportation channel. Keeps things semi-organized. The radio is hilarious to listen to most days. |
One of my great unanswered life questions: who shuts the door when the bus driver gets off? | Easy, the bus driver! We have keys, just like with our personal cars that we take home with us. We walk out the door of the bus, push the doors closed and lock them. |
| Come on! You never noticed that lock just to the right of those doors?! |
Do kids still sing "The wheels on the bus go round and round"? | I forbid it. |
That Veronica Vaughn really is a piece of ace huh? | Link to i.imgur.com |
Do you enjoy your line of work? What made you want to transport the youth to their designated facilities of education? How's the money in bus driving? | I enjoy it a lot. I'm a very social person and the amount of interaction I have with not only students but parents, teachers, and other school staff gives me a great outlet. Some days drag on and can be pretty miserable with different weather conditions, but generally every day is a good day. |
| I previously worked at a Costco Tire Center and I was miserable there. My father works for the county school system and convinced me that the easiest was into the school system was to be a bus driver (they are always in demand in my county). So I did it and it works great for my school schedule. |
| The money is about as good as you can get without any education past a high school diploma/GED. A few weeks of training and you're making just over $17/hr. |
So you're planning on becoming a teachefaculty member in the future? | My county offers a huge array of jobs in a large number of different fields just within the school system itself. I'm going to college for a degree in IT so if I couldn't get a job with a company outside of the school system I could remain in the school system and more than likely get a job with with the schools the IT field. That way I could bring my years of service and everything with me. |
| At this rate I could retire making a pretty good amount at the tender age of 52. I'd like to stay on track for that. |
What do you do between dropping the kids off at school and picking them back up? (I'm assuming you drive for field trips and what not, but what if there aren't any that day?) | As you said, MOST days I will be doing shuttles (taking kids from one school to another for specialty classes) or doing field trips. |
Also, How do you get into the bus from the outside with the door closed and locked? It seems like they would be pretty hard to get into from the outside, based on the way they're opened by the driver. | All the drivers have keys that they take home with them! Pop that sucker in the lock on the passenger side and pull the door open. Or, some of the fancier buses have doors that open themselves when you turn the key to "unlock", fancy fucks. |
Wait so you drive the bus where ever you want? | Negative ghost rider. They track the location of your bus via a system called "AVL". Now, honestly nobody is checking on the location of your bus unless you're not responding on the radio in which case you're probably in trouble anyway. |
| Its advised to stay in the area of your "base" school, which means whatever high school or middle school you drive out of OR in the area in which you park. |
My bus driver's were so amazing! They made a huge impact on my life, always knowing when I was having a bad day, and being extra nice. Do you feel like kids these days are still as grateful to you guys? Or is everyone completely distracted by their phones to notice? | I try to interact with my kids as much as possible! I'm very attentive to how each individual kid acts and I can tell when they're acting different that something is up. I'll try to pull them off to the side to ask them if something is bothering them. |
| Ya know, I don't feel that kids are as distracted with cell phones as many believe. I've found that the more engaging you are with them the less they'll even be on them. Obviously with high schoolers they're glued to them but can you blame them? I was the same way. |
| With my younger kids I always try to have trivia with them on the internal PA system. Its hilarious hearing some of the answers they come up with. |
I know that this is very late, but after reading this comment, I had a huge grin on my face. The idea that a bus driver would care enough to play trivia games with students on the bus is just too awesome for words. Thank you for that. | I appreciate it. The younger kids love it AND it helps keep me sane! There's nothing worse than entire bus routes with silence. Its so boring and almost makes it feel like there's a tension on the bus. |
Have you ever needed to use any of the safety protocols that bus-ridership teaches, like using an axe to break open a window? | Luckily I have not. However, there's a button on the bus you're supposed to only press in the event of someone "hijacking" the bus which opens up the on board microphone directly to central dispatch. |
| I have accidentally pressed that button multiple times due to fat legs and poor placement of said button. |
"Those sneaky hijacking bastards! They're threatening everyone to act normal and not give any signs of a hijacking!" | The video we watch about hijackings in training is absolutely hilarious. Its a very short video with acting worse than a soap opera. A couple "terrorists" (they're white Italian dudes from New Yawk) hijack a bus with some kids in it and hide it in a warehouse and puts bombs on it. Then police bust in the warehouse and everyone lives happily ever after. |
Have kids ever had sex on the bus? | There are lots of incidents every year of oral sex and a hj or similar being performed every year. Luckily nothing like that on my bus (that I know of). |
What would you do if something of the sort were to take place on your bus in your presence? ;) | "Dude are you fucking serious?" and then write them up instantly. Total buzzkill I know but...are you fucking serious? |
Why not wait till when they're finished? It'd be better than disturbing them while they engage in their passionate activities. | Well, I would hope they wouldn't be loud enough or obvious enough for me to see it in my mirror. Then I wouldn't even get up out of my seat until I dropped all the kids off when we got to school. |
| Fact is unless I see it ain't shit gon be done about it. |
My dad went to school in Fairfax County! He said it was a little rough back in his day. Do the kids do anything extreme or are they just typical obnoxious kids? | Its rough depending on the school and area. Mt. Vernon, West Potomac, Herndon, and South Lakes are some of the rougher schools to go to. Mainly because they cater to a lot of poorer areas and lets face it, poorer areas see a high amount of violence and bad behavior. |
| In the area I drive in it is the rich kids. I'm talking pretty much every house is $1 million +. These kids are typically just the typical obnoxious ones. |
| 95% of middle schoolers (7th and 8th grade) and absolute shit heads. Because they think they're cool and haven't been picked on by older kids yet. |
Ah your area sounds like the area I grew up in (in Pennsylvania); there's definitely a trade off with all that money. | My school was a big rival of TC Williams back in the day (Hayfield). |
My dad went to Edison; he implied that the school and its faculty were a bit of a joke when he attended it. | Edison can be rough still but its general pretty good. They just finished a great renovation of the school and it looks much better than it used to. I have many friends who went there and they have nothing negative to say. |
For anyone that isn't familiar with Fairfax County, one of its schools (West Potomac) is a rival of T. C. Williams, the school featured in Remember The Titans. | Fairfax County dumps a lot of money in the school system and I feel the higher ups do a very good job of allocating that money where it needs to be. However, there are still some very brainless administrators and teachers in almost every school. Middle School is the main gathering point for those individuals. |
You're pretty awesome! What do you do in a situation when you notice a kid being bullied? ie spit on, hit, told to move seats? | I have absolutely zero tolerance for bullying. I was bullied a lot when I was younger then puberty hit and I became bigger and scarier looking than my bullies. |
| If I witness it, its an instant write up and I take my personal time to go talk to a principle. I also talk to the bully after the incident and make it clear to him that what he's doing makes him/her a bad person. I don't care what the response from the parent might be. |
Would this be the Great Falls/McLean area? I went to Langley, and it's well known that that area is the most affluent of Fairfax County. | Yep! I drove for Langley High School last year and will drive for Cooper Middle next year. |
| My Langley and Spring Hill route took me down Towlston Road, Bellview, Old Dominion. |
I used to go to MV... you ever drive around there? | Absolutely not! I refuse! |
| In all seriousness, I know that if I ever switch to the MV area I'll get stuck with some thug neighborhood. I'll pass! |
Saw you went to Hayfield and that you posted your name in the proof...looked you up and we have 15 mutual FB friends. Fucking fairfax county. | Are we Eskimo brothers? |
Just want to say thanks for what you do! I was also bullied when I was a kid. A boy spit in my face and the bus driver saw and did nothing. (I'm a female) | I apologize on behalf of that driver! |
Haha I'm a girl so can't claim that! | Well I can assure you none of the mutual friends were riders on my bus! |
Your other comment mentioning your age means you only graduated two years ahead of me so I wouldn't have expected them to have been riders! | Genuine interest peaked though! |
What is the most amazing thing you have seen a child do? | Amazing is hard to think. Things that were hard to believe? |
| 1 kindergartner said that if you have a J in your name that means you're Jewish. |
| A 6th grader drew a very elaborate design. Really great artwork but still not allowed. Unfortunately she was having a brain fart and the entire design encompassed her name. |
What isn't allowed about that? | Drawing on the seats is vandalism. I remind my children not to do it but every once in a while they still do. |
| My deal with them is, if I can get it off (I have tricks from being a mechanic) then we don't report it. If I can't get it off, consequences will never be the same. |
What made you pursue this job? I have mad respect for anyone involved in our public school system, from the teachers, to the custodians and bus drivers, you all work together to make public education possible. | I'll be honest, at first it was the money and an easy way to get "in the door" of working for the county government. |
| But I've come to love it and have realized while the money is great, the interaction and relationships that can be built with the students is the #1 thing about the job. Its such a rewarding experience most of the time that its hard to have a bad day. |
| Public education gets a bad rap, but in a county like Fairfax County they do everything possible to make education one of the most important things. And it shows, FCPS consistently has some of the top ranked public schools in the country. As a graduate of this public school system, I cringe when children in this particular school system say they weren't afforded "opportunities" when in reality they were just too lazy to pursue them. |
Do you ever hear kids swear or talk about rape and pretend to not hear them? | I tell my high schoolers they can curse, just be reasonable. |
| Middle schoolers need to keep it to a minimum. |
| Elementary schools aren't not allowed to curse under ANY circumstances. |
| As far as the rape thing, I've heard it thrown around. That was from kids who I know were joking. But I quietly pull them off to the side when they're getting off and tell them I don't wanna hear things like that anymore on my bus. |
What is one trick that almost always calms kids down, especially the younger ones? | A 270 pound bearded man with a deep voice standing up to tell them to be quiet seems to work every time. |
When I was a kid, the "scary" bus driver saved my life. I was stepping on to the bus when the hard candy in my mouth lodged itself into my throat. The bus driver leapt out of his seat and heimliched that candy across the bus. This has left me with a lifelong affection for school bus drivers and a fear of hard candy. Are bus drivers taught life saving techniques like this and are you expected to know how to use them? | We absolutely are. We are all CPR certified and get re-certified by the county. Good on your bus driver for reacting so quickly! |
Are we there yet? :( | Link to youtu.be |