2021.10.04 21:30 chopperexchange ChopperExchange

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2021.11.04 16:27 chopperexchange How to Negotiate When Buying a Motorcycle

Negotiation is an important part of the motorcycle buying process. It may seem intimidating to some, however, negotiation is simply the process of communication between buyer and seller.
Negotiation can be tricky because it requires a delicate balance between being firm and compromising. If you let the seller’s demands override your own or refuse to compromise entirely, you have not negotiated properly.


1) Define Your Budget
Always create a budget before communicating with a seller or dealer. If you don’t know your budget prior to negotiating, you risk agreeing to a price that you cannot afford.
When determining your budget, you should think about the additional costs associated with a motorcycle purchase, such as safety gear, shipping, accessories, fees, taxes, etc. Also, keep the ongoing expenses in mind, such as gas, insurance, maintenance and repairs.
Divide your budget into three different categories/amounts: your ideal/lowest offer, reasonable offer and maximum offer.

2) Look up the value of the motorcycle
You should always know the market value of the motorcycle you’re interested in. Kelley Blue Book® and NADA Guides® are two free resources you can use to look up current motorcycle values; both retail (listing) and trade-in.
The typical listing price is how much a motorcycle would cost someone if they bought it at a dealership. You can expect to pay between $500 and $1,000 less when buying a motorcycle from a private seller. The trade-in value is how much a dealer would pay for someone’s pre-owned motorcycle when they purchase another one at their dealership.
For example, the typical listing price of a 2014 Harley-Davidson® Road King® is $13,204. Whereas, the trade-in value is $9,760.
The typical listing price is more than the trade-in value because when a dealership buys a used, traded-in vehicle they’ll likely need to make repairs before putting the bike on the market.

3) Select two or three motorcycles
Remember, you have options. First, begin your motorcycle search. Start by selecting the make and model you’re most interested in. Then, compare each bike’s price and condition. Lastly, narrow down your selection to two or three sellers/dealers selling that bike. Choosing three bikes of the same make and model will give you a more accurate comparison.
The cost of each motorcycle should be between your ideal/lowest offer and your maximum offer. You can pick one motorcycle per budget category and then make a more detailed comparison once you speak with each selledealer.

4) Create a plan
Now that you have gathered the information you need, you can create a solid plan. Your plan should begin with texting, emailing or calling the sellers/dealers to let them know you are interested.
Don’t make an offer immediately, if you don’t know much about the bike. The listing description may not list every detail.
Ask a few questions about the motorcycle, first. Then, based on the information they provide and the information you’ve gathered, you can make an offer. If they counter, have a plan to either stick to your offer or increase it.
Your negotiating approach will depend on the demand for the bike. If there are many interested buyers, the seller will likely take the highest offer. However, if they are having difficulty selling due to low demand, you can lower your offer.
When buying at a dealership, negotiation is still an option. In this case, call the dealer first and ask for more details. If interested, set up an appointment with the dealer and negotiate at the dealership face to face.


1) Speak with multiple private sellers/dealers
Now that you’ve selected two or three motorcycles, reach out to each selledealer. If you reach out to them at the same time, you can compare offers in real-time. This may also give you leverage, which we will discuss further in negotiation tip number three.
Another reason it is important to speak to multiple sellers/dealers is, if you buy a used motorcycle, each one will be in a different condition.
One bike could have minor scratches, another could have a worn leather seat. Or, the damage could be more significant, such as a dent on the gas tank, lack of overall maintenance or mechanical issues.
It’s also possible that one of the bikes in your top three is out of state. Meaning, you would have to deal with shipping, which you may be trying to avoid.
In any case, if you speak with more than one selledealer, you’ll have options.

2) Put your best foot forward
Present the best version of yourself when speaking with sellers/dealers. What they think of you and how they feel about your encounter will play a factor in the negotiation process.
This is especially true for private sellers. It never hurts to be cordial. Remember, many people are emotionally invested in their motorcycles. Some riders want to make sure their bike is going to a good home.
It goes without saying that one should not let emotions dictate their purchasing decisions. But, as human beings, it’s impossible to completely separate emotions from the buying/selling process. Feelings will be involved on a subconscious level, at a minimum.
Keep in mind that the seller is vetting you. If the offers are tied the seller could simply choose the person that seems the most trustworthy or is the most likable, courteous and responsive.

3) Bring down the price
As a buyer, you want to pay as little as possible. But your offer should not fall too far below the motorcycle’s value.
If you plan to buy from a private seller, remember, their bike holds sentimental value. You don’t want to offend the seller by lowballing them. This could cause you to miss out on the bike you’ve been eyeing for a while.
And while you’re looking for a good deal, remember that if it seems too good to be true, it usually is. If the asking price is unusually low, it’s most likely a scam.
You can use any or a combination of the strategies below to negotiate a lower price:

4) Increase your offer
If the motorcycle you want is in high demand, it’s likely the seller will be accepting the best offer. In this case, you want to make an offer that is competitive. One that you believe is higher than other offers.
However, your first offer should not be your maximum offer. If you offer at the height of your budget and the seller counters, you are out of options. Therefore, you want to offer a couple thousand dollars below your maximum offer.
They may accept your initial offer. If they don’t, you can bump up your offer to your maximum offer. State that this is the most you are willing/able to pay.

5) Close the deal
If you are adamant about purchasing a motorcycle, don’t be shy. Close in on the deal. It’s common to think that you must be pushy or aggressive, and this is false. However, it is important to be assertive, communicate clearly and remain firm.
In retrospect, it’s also important to know when to compromise. Know when it’s best to increase your offer. If you have your eyes on a motorcycle that is hard to come by, there may be many interested buyers. Increasing your offer will make you stand out from the crowd.

6) Stay firm, but also know when to walk away
If you are reaching your maximum offer, stay firm. You set a budget for a reason. If you and the seller are at your wit’s end from never-ending, back and forth negotiation, it’s safe to say it’s time to walk away.
Not every negotiation ends in a purchase and that’s okay. This is why you will speak with multiple sellers. Every situation is different.
Make sure you have all the information you need prior to the negotiation process. Knowledge is key and preparation is power. If you do your research and create a plan using the tips above, you are one step closer to buying the motorcycle you want for a price within your budget.
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2021.10.14 15:41 chopperexchange The History of Harley-Davidson Dyna Motorcycles

The History of Harley-Davidson Dyna Motorcycles

History of the Dyna
Although the Dyna name itself did not come about until 1991, the origins of this line of Harley-Davidson motorcycles can be traced back two decades prior to that. The late 1960s brought forth a spike in the scene of custom motorcycles.
In response to this trend, Harley-Davidson’s Chief Styling Director Willie G. Davidson set out to create a type of hybrid between the smaller Sportster models and the larger Touring models.

Dyna Origins – Creation of the Super Glide

In 1971, the FX Super Glide was born. It was considered by many to be the original factory custom motorcycle. Davidson designed the FX chassis to feature the frame and rear suspension from the FLH Electra Glide along with the smaller telescopic fork suspension from the XLH Sportster.
Fusing the FLH and XLH acronyms produced the FX moniker, also referred to as “Factory Experimental.”
The FX Super Glide was met with a mixed reception. The contemporary design was welcomed by some, but many were not fond of the boat tail-like fender that had also been chosen for the Sportsters at that time.
Variations of the Super Glide would be introduced throughout the remainder of the 1970s, and sales on the model began to improve once the rear styling was modified.
The first FXR model, the Super Glide II, was introduced in 1982. The FXR chassis replaced the solid-mounted engine and four-speed transmission from the FX in favor of rubber mounting and a five-speed transmission.
The FXR line was broadened not long after the release of the Super Glide II. The FXRS Low Glide was unveiled later in 1982 and the FXRT Sport Glide debuted a year later in 1983.
By 1987, the FXR line had completely supplanted the original FX bikes. Although the FXR line was doing well, Harley-Davidson began to work on replacing the new chassis not long after its launch.

The Dyna is Born

In 1991, the first official Dyna model was released with the introduction of the FXDB Sturgis. This limited-production model was named in honor of the annual bike rally located in South Dakota that is still held to this day. Approximately just 1,500 units were produced.
The FXD chassis kept the rubber mounting implemented with the FXR Super Glide II but reduced the number of mounts from three to two. This vastly improved production time on the assembly line and made these bikes cheaper to construct, but unfortunately resulted in substandard vibration control.
Although they caused more vibration, the new Dyna rubber mounts cut down on engine movement within the frame compared to the FXR chassis. This helped eliminate airy spacing with select units of the bike, such as the gas tank.
The new FXD frame was considerably stiffer than its predecessor, though, giving it the ability to better handle the new Evolution engine that Harley-Davidson debuted a few years prior.
The FXD line expanded in 1992 with the release of the FXDB Daytona as well as the FXDC Dyna Glide. These bikes were very similar apart from their respective paint schemes, with the Dyna Glide being completely silver and black upon initial introduction.
By 1993, the FXR models that had launched in the ‘80s began to be phased out in favor of newer FXD models. The FXRT Sport Glide and the FXRS Low Rider were both discontinued, and in their places came the inception of the FXDWG Dyna Wide Glide and the FXDL Dyna Low Rider.
These two models specifically garnered rave reviews from the community at large, and by this point, the Dyna model was really starting to gain traction and establish itself in the Harley lineup.

Growth of FXD Eliminates FXR

The year 1995 brought a couple of different changes to the Dyna world. Not only did the FXD Dyna Super Glide launch alongside the FXDS-CONV Dyna Glide Convertible, but these were the first Dyna models to present a 28° rake. All previous Dyna models featured a 32° rake.
The debut of these two models essentially replaced the FXR Super Glide and the FXLR Low Rider Custom, which happened to be the final FXR models in regular production.
The line was discontinued, but in hindsight only took a four-year hiatus. The FXR chassis returned briefly in 1999 with the creation of the FXR2 and FXR3. These models were of limited production, though, as only 900 of each were ever produced.
The FXR4, of which 1,000 units were produced, was released in 2000. This effectively marked the end of the line for the FXR line.
Building 42, which had previously been used to create military machines, shifted its focus from the FXR to the dawning of its Screamin’ Eagle line. This line would eventually be rebranded in 2009 as the Custom Vehicle Operations, or CVO, line as it is known today.
Additionally in 1999, the FXDX Super Glide Sport launched. This model advertised triple-disc brakes as well as enhanced suspension. A variation, the FXDX-T Super Glide T-Sport, debuted the same year. This model featured improved removable saddlebags and a fork-mounted fairing.
Harley-Davidson unveiled its first Twin Cam engine this same model year, with the first iteration sizing up at 88 cubic inches. This was an improvement on the 82 cubic inch Evolution engine.

Sons of Anarchy and the Dyna’s Prime Era

These FXDX models would then become obsolete by 2006 when the Dyna line once again introduced a new chassis. The first Dyna models to feature this redesigned chassis were the FXDBI Street Bob and the limited production FXDI35 35th Anniversary Super Glide. The addition of a six-speed transmission came to the Dyna family that same year.
The following year, in 2007, a new fuel-injected Twin Cam 96 engine replaced the Twin Cam 88 for Harley-Davidson’s complete Big Twin lineup, including the Dyna series.
The Dyna family celebrated another significant year in 2008. The FXDF Fat Bob first launched, giving the Dyna a bit of a more beefy look. Harley’s new muscle bike featured twin headlamps, a 2-1-2 exhaust system, and a 130 mm front tire.
Later in 2008, the critically acclaimed crime tragedy television series Sons of Anarchy premiered. The program was based around an outlaw motorcycle club in a fictional Californian town. Many believe this marked the apex of the Dyna’s popularity, as most of the club members sported various blacked-out Dyna models.
Complex media even created a list of the top 15 “coolest” motorcycles featured in the hit TV series, and seven of the bikes chosen were Dyna models. Protagonist Jax Teller (portrayed by Charlie Hunnam) rode a modified 2003 FXD Dyna Super Glide during the series.
The program had a successful run for seven seasons before concluding in December of 2014. Although the series has ended, it provided an invaluable spike in popularity for Harley-Davidson motorcycles and Dynas in particular, helping make them coveted models to this day.

The Final Days of Dyna

Even through two decades of producing the Dyna, Harley-Davidson still wasn’t afraid to mix it up and try something new with the established line.
In 2012, the FLD Switchback was born, becoming the first Dyna truly configured as a Touring bike complete with saddlebags and floorboards. Along with the Switchback, a new 103 cubic inch engine was also offered along the Dyna line.
Twenty-seven years after the Dyna was conceived, its time had officially come to an end. In 2017, Harley-Davidson announced there would be no Dyna line for the 2018 model year. The remaining popular Dyna models that were still in production at the time were merged into the redesigned Softail line.
That’s not to say the Dyna went out without a fight, though. The final few years of the Dyna produced a strong showing, creating bikes that many found to be appealing. Cycle World named the 2017 FXDLS Low Rider S its best cruiser of that model year.

Legacy and Aftermath

Different reasons have been contended as to why Harley-Davidson decided to eliminate the Dyna. Many speculate that it was due to Harley’s falling stock hitting a five-year low the year before they made the announcement and that they needed to cut production and downsize their staff.
Some believe that the stock drop just meant Harley needed to mix it up. Since their target market wasn’t purchasing bikes quite like they used to, they had to do away with some of their existing models and come up with something fresh and new. Something they hope would catch the eye of a younger generation, including the female demographic.
Others dispute that the existing Dyna chassis would simply not be able to accommodate Harley’s new Milwaukee-Eight engine; its first all-new Big Twin engine released in 18 years, with displacement ranging from 107 to 117 cubic inches.
Regardless of the reason, the legacy of the Dyna will forever live on through its loyal fan base. Sure, it was sometimes criticized for never being quite the best in any one aspect in particular.
It never had the overpowering intensity of the Touring models or looked as sleek as some of the Sportster models, but it did a great number of things very well. It was relatively affordable, possessed a high-performance potential, and was easy to work on.
Above all, the Dyna was loved by its diehards because it had evolved into something so versatile and customizable; the very goal that Willie G. Davidson set out to conquer in 1971.
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2021.10.12 16:44 chopperexchange When is the Best Time to Buy a Motorcycle?

The best time to buy a motorcycle is when the prices are right. There are many factors throughout the year that influence the prices of motorcycles sold at dealerships and online. If you shop smart during the right time of the year, you can buy your dream bike at a fraction of the cost.

The Best Days to Buy a Motorcycle

Most people consider the time of year and major holidays when they want to get a good deal on a motorcycle, but many forget that the day of the week can also influence motorcycle prices. Weekdays are typically slower at a dealership. To promote sales, dealerships offer deals Monday through Thursday to get customers through the door.
Mid-week sales are difficult to predict because they are most commonly spur-of-the-moment decisions. The best move is to stay connected by following your local dealerships and favorite online sellers on social media.
At ChopperExchange, we post newly listed motorcycles on our Facebook, Instagram and Twitter daily. By liking and following our pages, you can be one of the first to see the best deals. Another smart move is to subscribe to newsletters for discount codes and sale announcements.

The Best Months to Buy a Motorcycle

To optimize your chances of getting a good deal on a motorcycle, shop Monday through Thursday during slow traffic months. Motorcycle dealers are most desperate to move products during slower months. That is when you can get the best deals.
February is a short month, which means less time to sell motorcycles. Dealerships need to hit their quotas and will go to the extent of hosting sales to get them to their goal. Shopping when prices are low is ideal for those who want to buy a motorcycle with bad credit. If the motorcycle you want is at a discounted price, you can put more money down, and you will have better chances of qualifying for financing.

The Best Seasons to Buy a Motorcycle

The best time of the year to buy a motorcycle is during winter. When the sun is gone and the temperature is below freezing, motorcycles aren’t exactly top of mind. This means less traffic for motorcycle sellers and a greater potential for lower prices. This excludes areas where it is summer all year long, like Florida.
However, buying a motorcycle during the winter is not the most ideal for customers. If conditions aren’t safe to ride, or you aren’t close enough to your destination to take a quick ride in the cold, you will need to pay transportation fees. Even if you are getting a great deal on the motorcycle, determine if the transportation fees will take away from the discounted price of the bike.
It doesn’t need to be cold out to get a good deal on a motorcycle. In June, dealers are finishing up the financial year. In order to boost sales, sellers may begin to promote discounted prices. In the Spring, dealers want to get riders excited about riding again. If you are on the lookout for sales, you may get lucky.
Each year our favorite brands come out with new models. Dealers need to make room for this new inventory, so what do they do? They mark down older models. Always shop for this year’s models when next year’s models arrive.

The Best Holidays to Buy a Motorcycle

Black Friday: Some of the biggest deals of the year take place on Black Friday. It is the ideal shopping day because sales are guaranteed. It also falls within the Winter months when business is slow for motorcycle dealers. Private sellers are also more willing to negotiate deals to make a quick sale for some extra holiday cash.
Labor Day: Labor Day is a huge holiday in the automotive industry. You can usually find great deals during Labor Day Weekend. These sales are usually promoted weeks in advance. If you play your cards right, you can save up in anticipation.
After Christmas: After the holidays, dealers are looking to get rid of excess stock. This may prompt deals at the beginning of the year on older models that are taking up floor space needed for Harley’s newest models.

The Best Time to Buy a Motorcycle Online

It is never a bad time to buy a motorcycle online. The countless number of options available to you online makes it easy to compare prices and get the best deal possible. The above recommendations still hold true online, especially if you are purchasing from a dealer. But on sites like ChopperExchange, you have the power to negotiate prices year-round.
If you have your heart set on a specific model you can track listing prices and save accordingly. You can also keep track of how long a motorcycle has been listed. If it has been on the website for a long time, odds are the seller may be more flexible on the price if you put in the right offer.
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2021.10.08 18:10 chopperexchange How to Use NADAguides to Determine Motorcycle Value

Whether you’re buying or selling a motorcycle, it’s important to know its value. Researching a motorcycle’s value is one of the first steps of the buying and selling process.
To determine the value of a motorcycle, you can use the National Automobile Dealers Association’s pricing tool, NADAguides. This guide was created for dealers, but it is a great resource for everyday consumers.
Let's get started with some key terms!

Key Terms

Suggested List Price: This price is the highest manufacturer-suggested retail price (MSRP) for a motorcycle in the United States when that motorcycle was new.
*Keep in mind that this value is the highest suggested dealership price, not a private sale price. Also, this price does not include destination charges, dealer set-up fees, state taxes, local taxes, registration fees or insurance (unless otherwise noted).
Average Retail Value: This is the value of a used motorcycle at a dealership that is clean and free of obvious defects.
*NADA states that a vehicle in excellent condition can be worth significantly more than a vehicle in average condition. So use your discretion if your motorcycle is used but in excellent condition. Make sure that the price remains below the suggested list price.
Low Retail Value: This is the value of a motorcycle, at a dealership, that has significant wear and tear.
*Keep in mind that low retail value is not equal to trade-in value. Also, according to NADA, this type of vehicle is not typically found at dealerships. Vehicles sold by dealerships are required to meet basic safety standards. Consequently, dealers who sell unsafe vehicles can face legal liability.
Private Sale Value: Private sale value can be defined as the price a buyer would expect to pay to purchase a used motorcycle from a private seller.


Keep in mind that these instructions are based on NADA’s website as of March 2020. Aspects of this valuation tool may change over time, but these steps should remain similar.
  1. Start by going to the NADAguides motorcycle pricing page. Select the make of the motorcycle from the dropdown menu.
  2. Select the year of the motorcycle from the results in the dropdown menu.
  3. You can now select the model. Each model type can be found in the third dropdown menu. And, all models will be listed below the dropdown menus in three categories according to type.
  4. Add any upgrades or equipment that might add value to the motorcycle. Simply select a category and check the boxes that apply. Or, you can skip this step and continue to the next page to get base values.
  5. Here you will see the suggested list price, low retail value and average retail value of the motorcycle. You can also click “options,” which is located below those values, to add upgrades and equipment if you haven’t done so already.
  6. In order to calculate our suggested private sale price, subtract $1,000 to $2,000 from the average retail price. Of course, this is just a suggestion and the final decision is yours to make. You know your motorcycle better than anyone else.

Common Valuation Questions

Why does the NADA seem to provide higher values than KBB?
NADA and Kelley Blue Book (KBB) don’t provide the same types of motorcycle values. The only values that can be considered similar amongst the two are NADA’s average retail value and KBB’s typical listing price.
On many occasions, NADA’s pricing tool generates an average retail value significantly higher than KBB’s typical listing price. However, at times NADA generates a value lower than KBB.
Each company has its own proprietary algorithm. Therefore, each pricing tool generates different results based on different factors.
NADA’s values are based on wholesale transactions, retail transactions, Autotrader, Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), supply and demand, MSRP, invoices and equipment assumptions.
KBB’s values are based on information from wholesale auctions, independent dealers, franchised dealers, rental and fleet, Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), financial institution lessors and private party transactions.

I listed my motorcycle online at the suggested private sale price. Why am I not getting offers?
Often when buyers are shopping online for a new motorcycle, they are looking for a deal.

I just can’t lower the price any further. What are some other things I can do to sell my motorcycle?
Perhaps you’ve continued to decrease the price of your bike over time, but have yet to receive any viable offers. The good news is hope is not lost. There are still some things you can do to sell your bike.
You can add “OBO” (or best offer) or “negotiable” to your listing price. Some buyers feel more comfortable reaching out to sellers when they know there’s some flexibility in the price.
You can also make sure your listing gets more views by choosing a listing option that will highlight your ad. This will make it stand out from the others.
Or, you can post the link to your listing to your personal social media page. You just may have a friend or family member who has been swooning over your bike and would love to purchase it.

Now that you know the value of the motorcycle, you can move on to the next step of the buying or selling process.
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2021.10.07 20:36 chopperexchange Top 6 Motorcycle Selling Scams to Look Out For

1. The Sob Story Scam

One of the most common motorcycle selling scams is the “sob story.” In this one, the scammer will attempt to capitalize on your emotions.
Let’s say you see an ad for a motorcycle you’re interested in, so you reach out to the seller. The seller responds with a lengthy text or email. They explain that their partner, parent or sibling has passed away. They claim that they need to sell their motorcycle quickly to pay for their loved one’s funeral arrangements.
The scammer will usually insist that you pay them via PayPal. To avoid meeting you, they may claim that they relocated after the death of their loved one. Once you pay them, you’ll never hear from them again. This leads us to our next fraud tactic, the “relocation story.”

2. The Relocation Story Scam

Another way an illegitimate seller may try to scam you is by claiming that they’ve relocated. They’ll appear to be in your local area, but when you reach out to them they’ll say that they recently moved. The scammer could also claim that they are not in the area because they are away at college, in the military, or traveling abroad. These are all excuses so that you won’t ask to meet with them.
They’ll claim that the motorcycle is at a friend’s house or in a storage facility. But they’ll assure you that shipping is taken care of. All you have to do is send them your information and they’ll have someone ship the bike to you. Again, the scammer will insist that you make the payment via an online payment service. You’ll pay for the motorcycle and never receive it.

3. The Phony Escrow Company Scam

In this scam, the seller will suggest or insist on using a specific escrow company. They’ll claim that the company is safe, cheap and fast.
Side note: Using an escrow service is actually the perfect way to make a secure transaction if the escrow company is real. The process is pretty simple.
First, the buyer gives the money to a reputable escrow company, such as Next, the buyer receives their purchase. Then, the escrow company transfers the money to the seller.
However, in this case, the seller has recommended a fake escrow service. If you pay for the motorcycle on the fake escrow site, you’ll give the scammer your personal account information and the payment money.

4. The Bogus Classifieds Site Scam

Beware, fake classifieds websites do exist. Always double-check the site’s domain name.
Scammers may use a domain name similar to the one of a popular classifieds site. You may think you are on but you are actually on
Illegitimate sellers also post ads on real classifieds sites. After baiting you, the scammer may ask you to pay them via PayPal or attempt to gain access to your personal information.

5. The Unbelievable Price Scam

A common way fake sellers lure unsuspecting buyers is by listing at unbelievably low prices. Be mindful. It’s sketchy when a motorcycle is listed far below the Kelley Blue Book recommended value.
Scammers love listing antique or vintage Harleys for sale at crazy low prices. They steal images from legitimate listings on reputable websites and then create fake listings using those images. The irresistible part is the super low asking price.
The scammer is hoping that the buyer gets so excited about the deal, that their emotions cloud their judgment. Once the buyer pays, they’ll never hear from the seller again.

6. The Busy Seller Scam

Never buy a motorcycle from anyone you have never spoken with over the phone or have never met in person.
For example, the seller may ask you to pay them half of the money upfront via an online payment service. Then, you both agree on a time and place to meet. When that time comes, they are “unable to make it.”
The seller proposes a new date and time, and he/she asks you to send over more money to “secure” the bike. The time comes around for the next meeting and they flake on you again.
An illegitimate seller will always have an excuse for why they cannot meet up with you. This is because the motorcycle you’re buying doesn’t even exist.

Prevention Tips

  1. Don’t rush into anything. Be open to negotiating.
  2. Use a reputable shipping company.
  3. Talk on the phone, video chat, and/or meet in person.
  4. Don’t let emotions cloud your judgment.
  5. Check businesses for legitimacy.
  6. Use a trusted escrow service.
  7. Confirm payment with your bank.
  8. Double-check website domains.
  9. See the motorcycle in person, before you buy it.
  10. Guard your personal information.
At the end of the day, trust your gut! If something feels off, don’t proceed. The National Consumers League also has additional information and resources on their advocacy website,
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2021.10.07 16:50 chopperexchange Top 6 Motorcycle Buying Scams To Look Out For

1. The Immediate Offer Scam

Let’s say you’ve had your motorcycle listed online for a few weeks now and haven’t had much luck. You may be impatient, especially if you have time-sensitive plans for the money.
A scammer will try to capitalize on these emotions. If you take the bait, you could be lured into another trap listed below. A scammer may claim that this is his/her dream bike and that they are willing to pay your asking price.
They will claim that they want to buy the motorcycle immediately because they are afraid you will sell it to someone else. However, even if this is the buyer’s dream bike, someone interested in making such a large purchase would definitely ask questions about the bike’s condition, before making an offer.
Try to remain patient when selling your motorcycle online. On ChopperExchange, a motorcycle can sell in as little as 2 weeks. But on average, it takes 67 days for a motorcycle to sell on ChopperExchange.

2. The No Need to Negotiate Scam

Of course, it’s never ideal to settle for less than your asking price. But a buyer that doesn’t even attempt to negotiate is most likely a scammer. Most buyers will ask very specific questions.
Even first-time buyers will have specific questions because they are often concerned about the condition of used motorcycles. This technique is used to lure you in. Then the scammer will execute one, or a combination, of the tactics listed below to take your bike and/or your money.

3. The Fake Confirmation Email Scam

Another red flag is when a buyer insists on paying you via an online/mobile payment service, such as PayPal, Cash App, or Venmo. First, you both agree on a price. Then, the buyer offers to pay you via PayPal.
Many legitimate buyers may not know the risks of using an online payment service. That’s ok.
Suggest using an escrow service, such as Tell the buyer that it will protect both of you by making the transaction secure. If they immediately dismiss your suggestion and insist on using a service like PayPal, they are most likely a scammer.
They're planning to trick you by forwarding you a fake payment confirmation email. They’ll claim that it could take 3-5 business days for your bank to post the funds to your account. Don’t ship or hand over the motorcycle! They never paid you a dime.

4. The Overpay Scam

Another buying scam is to offer to pay more than the asking price. The scammer may say they want to reward you for your kindness, customer service, or to make sure that no one else buys the motorcycle. The trick is, they purchased the motorcycle from you with a stolen credit card or check. Now your bike is gone and you may be held liable for the stolen funds.
In the second variation of this scam, the scammer will offer to pay you via PayPal or a similar service. Then, they will claim they accidentally overpaid you. The scammer will forward you a fake PayPal confirmation email as proof of payment, then ask you to wire them back the amount they overpaid. The trick is that they never paid you in the first place. But you actually paid them when you sent them the “difference” they “overpaid.”

5. The Fake Shipping Company Scam

Sellers can include the cost of shipping in the asking price or require the buyer to pay for it separately. The buyer and seller can discuss it and come to an agreement. Similar to the “overpay” scam, the illegitimate buyer will pay you more than the bike costs.
This time, they’ll claim that the additional money is to cover shipping. If you agree to handle shipping, the scammer will suggest a company, then send you a link to the company website and ask you to wire the extra shipping money to that company.
Unbeknownst to you, the shipping company is fake.
When the scammer “paid” you for the motorcycle, they used a stolen credit card or a fake check. And when you made the payment on the fake shipping site, you wired the money to another scammer outside the United States and will most likely never get it back.
You also gave the scammer your credit card information. Yikes!

6. The Busy Schedule Scam

A scammer will always have an excuse for why they can’t talk on the phone or meet in person. First, it’s that they missed your call. Then, it’s that they have a hectic schedule. They also like to claim that they are in the military and can’t make phone calls.
At a minimum, a serious buyer will want to speak to a seller on the phone. They will want to know that the seller is trustworthy. No one wants to give a large amount of money to a complete stranger.
The scammer is, undoubtedly, using a fake name. And they’ll want to limit contact with you to remain incognito.
Because they are so “busy”, they’ll most likely insist you ship the bike. They’ll pay will a stolen credit card or send you a fake PayPal payment confirmation.

Prevention Tips

  1. Don’t rush into anything. Be open to negotiating.
  2. Use a reputable shipping company.
  3. Talk on the phone, video chat, and/or meet in person.
  4. Don’t let emotions cloud your judgment.
  5. Check businesses for legitimacy.
  6. Use a trusted escrow service.
  7. Confirm payment with your bank.
  8. Double-check website domains.
  9. See the motorcycle in person, before you buy it.
  10. Guard your personal information.
At the end of the day, trust your gut! If something feels off, don’t proceed. The National Consumers League also has additional information and resources on their advocacy website,

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2021.10.06 16:29 chopperexchange The Difference Between a Panhead and a Shovelhead

The Difference Between a Panhead and a Shovelhead
Riders may refer to their Harleys as a Panhead, Shovelhead, Flathead or even Knucklehead. But none of these are names of models. They are really names of the engine. The distinguishing features of each of these engines are the heads that serve as valve covers. Each head is uniquely shaped and the inspiration behind each engine name.

The Flathead (1929 - 1975)

Flathead engine on 1942 Harley-Davidson Specialty Model
The Flathead engine debuted in 1929 and is the oldest of the four engines. The 1930 V model Big Twin was the first bike with a Flathead engine. The engine’s name is inspired by its flat-topped, vented cylinder heads.

The Knucklehead (1936 – 1947)

Knucklehead engine on 1947 Harley-Davidson EL Special Sport Solo
The Knucklehead engine was produced from 1936 to 1947 until it was replaced by the Panhead. They were originally called “OHVs” until the nickname “Knucklehead” was created by the California motorcycle culture of the late 1960s. The name was inspired by the distinct shape of the valve covers, which have contours that resemble the knuckles on a person’s fist.

The Panhead Engine (1948 – 1965)

Panhead engine on 1952 Harley-Davidson FL
Panhead engines were produced from 1948 to the mid-'60s when it was replaced by the Shovelhead. Its inception was just in time for the postwar motorcycle boom. The valve covers on these bikes look like small cake pans. The purpose of the Panhead design was to help with oil containment, however, it wasn’t successful. Panheads still leak oil from the top end.

The Shovelhead Engine (1966 – 1985)

Shovelhead engine on 1984 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Classic
The Shovelhead engine was produced from the mid-'60s to the early ‘80s. Harley created the Shovelhead mainly to produce more power for their heavier bikes with electric start and rear suspension. The shallow chambers of the Shovelheads helped with cooling and worked better at higher compression ratios; however, the engine went through a series of updates. The heads resemble the curve of a shovel, hence the name. This type of engine is the most difficult to identify because the shape does not resemble that of a traditional shovel. Instead, it looks more like a coal shovel flipped upside down.

Now you won’t look like a knucklehead the next time you try to identify an older model. The shape of the engine heads will tell you what kind of engine it is.

Check out the full blog post here.
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2021.10.05 15:21 chopperexchange Selling Your Motorcycle Privately vs. Trading It In at a Dealership

First, know your price target.

The difference


If you need the cash quickly and want to be ensured of a safe and easy transaction, you should take it to a dealership.
If you wish to maximize the return on your investment while getting to briefly know the inheritor of your prized possession, you may want to put some time and effort into selling it yourself.

You can read the full blog post here.
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2019.09.17 17:55 blue-hell Where to buy older bikes?

Where does everyone look for old bikes, older than what a dealership will have. Even if you're just window shopping. I'm looking for another FL pre-evo (definitely pre-twin cam) bike, quality clean title non-chopper type thing.
I've been looking at these sites, there must be others? I've only every purchased from a dealer or private local sale so I'm branching out :)
I wonder about this site:
This particular bike they have had listed sense 2016 and its also on ebay. I think its a big ask for a pan/shovel regardless of its restoration and the pics look too good to be true.
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2018.03.30 14:45 prnewswireadmin ChopperExchange Announces Average Selling Prices for Motorcycles Sold in 2017 and 2018

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